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re: 'Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power' Ep 1 Negativity Thread. Enter at your own risk

Posted on 8/29/22 at 5:23 pm to
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 5:23 pm to
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Who?


From Wikipedia -

Thomas Alan Shippey (born 9 September 1943)[1] is a British medievalist, a retired scholar of Middle and Old English literature as well as of modern fantasy and science fiction. He is considered one of the world's leading academic experts[2] on the works of J. R. R. Tolkien about whom he has written several books and many scholarly papers. His book The Road to Middle-Earth has been called "the single best thing written on Tolkien".[3]
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 5:34 pm to
An old white guy is all they need to know to start their hate.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 5:41 pm to
Funny how some are just fine with all main casting for certain movies, like Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, Black Panther or RRR, but hell, let a WHITE man write a story about Anglos....
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 5:53 pm to
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Funny how some are just fine with all main casting for certain movies, like Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, Black Panther or RRR, but hell, let a WHITE man write a story about Anglos.


When you’re a woke prog you can’t help but be mentally ill.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 5:55 pm to
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Sammy and Bronc


I argue with Bronc until I'm blue in the face on the Pelicans board. But we can disagree on everything but I know that if we sat down at the bar it would be cool because when it all boils down, we both are passionate about the pelicans.

Him and Sammy have shown in all the threads that they have a lot of knowledge about Tolkien and his works. I'll say it again, just because you want to watch this show does not mean you want to defile his legacy. I don't know anybody that loves Tolkien and at the same time wants to defile his work. Those two things do not correlate.

CP3 on the other hand? The guy that's obsessed with you, has never read any of the source material and the only thing he's added to the post is call all these people soy boys. Not sure how anybody could put any stock into what he says.
Posted by TigerNutwhack
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 6:01 pm to
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I do think Tolkien’s work can not be harmed from the outside unlike say Star Wars can be. I think it’s pretty easy to ignore and just mock the series as blasphemous as it may be. These writers have no additional insight into Tolkien’s world.



This is absolutely true. The Hobbit movies mostly sucked, but they didn't do any harm to Tolkien's legacy, same with Bakshi's LOTR. If this show sucks, people will quickly forget it.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 6:11 pm to
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CP3 on the other hand? The guy that's obsessed with you, has never read any of the source material and the only thing he's added to the post is call all these people soy boys. Not sure how anybody could put any stock into what he says


What a lazy take. We aren’t talking about the pelicans I’m sure we agree on a lot of stuff about our team also.
We are talking about people taking a shite on tolkien work. Quit sticking up for those 6 that we posted.

Y’all go from bullying OM to try and make peace. Y’all are either with us or against us in this. There is no middle ground.
This post was edited on 8/29/22 at 6:16 pm
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 6:15 pm to
I didn't bother with the last Hobbit movie, the first 2 were so bad. No way it should have been made into 3 movies. That was ridiculous.

But as bad as the Dwarf/Elf love interest, they still kept somewhat with in the basic lore of Tolkien.

This ROP... utter trash. In so many ways.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 6:22 pm to
It’s sad so many people are going into this show already hating it

I’m going to have an open mind and let it earn my attention.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 6:23 pm to
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But as bad as the Dwarf/Elf love interest, they still kept somewhat with in the basic lore of Tolkien.


Yeah, there had to be at least one of those even if Tolkien didn’t know about it from the Red Book of the Westmarch. The Dwarves awoke a century (either that or 700 solar years) after the Elves were awoken, so the Dwarves were around for thousands of years before Men were awoken. There had to be some sort of a love story between one of each of their race. It was an obvious place for Jackson to add in filler since that’s a story that has not been told by Tolkien and does not seem to be blasphemous to his work.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 6:25 pm to
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But F all that. We needed muh black dwarves, harfoots, elves. Which never existed in Tolkien’s work!!


This Is that what you bitches are bitching about here?

Damn that is soy as frick.




Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 6:25 pm to
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It’s sad so many people are going into this show already hating it


All I had to do is listen to the cast and creators to know what I’m getting. They’re not exactly hiding the ball here. Do you think Peter Jackson would drag these four before us saying they’re super fans?



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I’m going to have an open mind and let it earn my attention.


With Galadriel going full elf and saying she’s nothing without her sword? I’m sorry, it does not deserve the benefit of the doubt.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 6:26 pm to
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The Hobbit movies mostly sucked, but they didn't do any harm to Tolkien's legacy


And again, Jackson got right all the scenes he had to get right, so as long as I can watch those awesome scenes on YouTube and use my mind to fill in the gaps, no harm no foul as far as I’m concerned.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 6:27 pm to
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This Is that what you bitches are bitching about here? Damn that is soy as frick.


I don’t even know how to respond to this dumb shite.
This post was edited on 8/29/22 at 6:28 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 6:33 pm to
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Him and Sammy have shown in all the threads that they have a lot of knowledge about Tolkien and his works.


Oh bullshite on that one. Sammy clearly doesn’t understand the themes of Lord of the Rings and is more into the sword play than anything else. Anything subtle he either doesn’t know or doesn’t understand. Bronc might know the themes of Lord of the Rings, but he despises them. The dude is an open communist. Sammy is too stupid to know he is one, but Bronc isn’t. He knows what he’s saying.

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I'll say it again, just because you want to watch this show does not mean you want to defile his legacy. I don't know anybody that loves Tolkien and at the same time wants to defile his work. Those two things do not correlate.


The Woke want to use Lord of the Rings as a skin mask because they can not create anything good and they despise the the story and themes of Lord of the Rings. I’m sorry, I saw a lot of the Woke celebrating the destruction of Star Wars in real time. The good news is Lord of the Rings is impervious to it, especially since the only two people capable of defiling it are now dead.

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CP3 on the other hand? The guy that's obsessed with you, has never read any of the source material and the only thing he's added to the post is call all these people soy boys. Not sure how anybody could put any stock into what he says.


He does follow me a bit like a dog. But no, CP3 is much more likely to have read Lord of the Rings than Sammy. I doubt Sammy has read a page of it.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 6:35 pm to
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This Is that what you bitches are bitching about here?

Damn that is soy as frick.


How is that remotely "soy"? You don't know a damn thing of what you're talking about, you're just in for the BS woke agenda crap.

F that, an F anyone who tries to overwrite another person's work.
This post was edited on 8/29/22 at 6:36 pm
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
42478 posts
Posted on 8/29/22 at 6:37 pm to
Yes, Were-worms existed but there was never any at the Battle of the 5 Armies.

So glad I didn't bother with that last POS movie.
This post was edited on 8/29/22 at 6:39 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 6:46 pm to
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Yes, Were-worms existed but there was never any at the Battle of the 5 Armies. So glad I didn't bother with that last POS movie


That entire battle was garbage. Only got Smaug’s death, Thorin giving Frodo his Mithril vest, and Thorin’s death right there.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 6:48 pm to
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It’s sad so many people are going into this show already hating it


Sad that they made such a mockery of a beloved and well-known author, you mean? And don't think for 1 moment that releasing this on Sept. 2, the anniversary of his death, wasn't done without a not-so-subtle message.

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I’m going to have an open mind and let it earn my attention.


Good for you.

I have chosen to not renew my Amazon Prime subscription and won't be watching.
This post was edited on 8/29/22 at 6:49 pm
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 6:49 pm to
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Yeah, there had to be at least one of those even if Tolkien didn’t know about it from the Red Book of the Westmarch. The Dwarves awoke a century (either that or 700 solar years) after the Elves were awoken, so the Dwarves were around for thousands of years before Men were awoken. There had to be some sort of a love story between one of each of their race. It was an obvious place for Jackson to add in filler since that’s a story that has not been told by Tolkien and does not seem to be blasphemous to his work.


To me the dwarf/elf love story added no value and did for the most part go against most of what we knew about the hate between the two races, which is quickly shown in most literature out there.

But now want to talk about something that was completely against the lore let us discuss the main villain in the Hobbit, Azog who had actually died 150 years or so before the Hobbit took place.

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Azog’s forces in Moria met the dwarves in battle, and he was finally killed in the fight by Dáin Ironfoot, after killing his father, Náin.


Taking liberties to add something that may or may not happened is one thing, but completely re-writing history is totally different.
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