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re: Let's Overanalyze "Home Alone" and "Home Alone 2"

Posted on 11/28/20 at 8:26 pm to
Posted by The Eric
Louisiana
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Posted on 11/28/20 at 8:26 pm to
Yeah. But I think the real story is how the cops name is Balzak
Posted by Outdoorreb
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Posted on 11/28/20 at 9:00 pm to
Frickkkkkkk not another year
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 11/28/20 at 9:21 pm to
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She doesn't give his age nor does she explain the fact they forgot him and know he's there, and basically just acts like she's some helicopter parent whose teenager is home and just wants them to "check on him."



You know, I never thought of it that way.


I can't believe I'd never thought of it until they mentioned it on The Rewatchables.

To be fair to Officer Balzak (also can't believe I never caught that one), he even repeats his question to her to try to clarify the ask - "let me get this straight, you want us to go over to your house just to check on your son" and Kevin's mom is like yep that's it. Uh, no, you're sort of burying the lede there, Kate.

Also, the biggest plot hole in the movie —in addition to the McAllisters not calling their own home to see if Kevin would answer — is the fact that they never called the cops back. Never called the Village PD back to see how the check-in went, how/what the officer reported back, etc.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 11/28/20 at 9:36 pm to
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You know, I never thought of it that way.


I haven’t quite either. I’ve always thought what was going through that count’s head is “Well frick it, we need to check some boxes, and if he’s fortunately kidnapped or brutally murdered later, then we at least need to make that effort in order to avoid going to jail. Sure everyone will think we’re the Ramseys before the Ramseys were even a thing, but think of the incredible publicity!”
This post was edited on 11/28/20 at 9:39 pm
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/28/20 at 9:42 pm to
Legendary thread.

The Rewatchables podcast just put out an episode on Home Alone.
This post was edited on 11/28/20 at 9:43 pm
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 11/28/20 at 9:42 pm to
I have no idea how this thread got bumped here from 2011. But it's a crazy coincidence anyways. I just watched Home Alone 1 and 2 on Thanksgiving night. I haven't seen either of the movies in years. As a child, it was my favorite movies and I would watch it every year religiously.

Now, after watching the movie as a grown person, it just made me irrationally mad to the point that I had to vent to my wife . Now I have to read through every page of this just to see if I'm tripping or not.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 11/28/20 at 10:15 pm to
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Now, after watching the movie as a grown person, it just made me irrationally mad to the point that I had to vent to my wife . Now I have to read through every page of this just to see if I'm tripping or not.


Trust me, everyone in this thread has approached the movies with absolute love. My parents and I watched Home Alone again last night, and I would not shut the frick up during the movie. They asked “why do you hate these movies so much?” My answer was I love these movies. Critiquing them shows they’re actually perfect movies when you realize who the McCallisters are. Very rarely as much of a nitpicky bastard as I am will I say I wouldn’t change something about a movie. Interstellar is in my Top 10 movies of all time, and I constantly bitch that they should have had a better excuse to go to the water planet and that Brian Cranston or someone in his mold should have been cast as Dr Mann, but not in this movie.

The flaws are all deliberate which makes a much more interesting, dynamic, and perfect movie. I rant about these movies because I love them. I love a film that wears its flaws so confidently on its sleeves like the Home Alone movies (first two at least). There’s no question I’ll be in a nursing home one day bitching with my grandkids on how Uncle Frank is actually a mobster pedophile while not being able to recognize their own faces.
Posted by Frac the world
The Centennial State
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 11/29/20 at 1:02 am to
I’m not reading through this fricking entire thread, but I annoyed the hell out of my wife with the logistics of Mrs. Mccallisters drive home last night. This is what I laid out to her, and she didn’t want to hear it.

On Dec 24th the sun sets in Scranton, Pa at 4:38 pm. One shot shows the van well underway before dark, I’ll be generous and say it’s 4 pm.

The drive from the Scranton car rental to the actual address of the McCallister’s is listed at 10 hrs 45 mins. I’d give them 30 mins or so added for a gas stop, because that’s 715 miles in a van they’d have to get gas at least once. I’m not adding anymore time for traffic because it’s majority I-80 at night and honestly they may pickup time. We know Kate is psycho about getting there ASAP so they’re gonna drive straight through, no stops unless mandatory. That puts it at around 11 and a half hour drive.

Knowing that information, Mrs McCallister should’ve pulled up to the house at between 3- 4 am.

Sunrise on the 25th in Winnetka is at 7:18 am. She pulls up well after the sun has risen, at what looks to me to be between 8-9 am on a snowy day. But even if she pulled up directly at sunrise that means her and the polka band fricked around on the road for 3-4 hrs. That’s 3-4 hrs I would’ve never forgiven her for if I’m Kevin and analyzed it myself years later.
Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 11/29/20 at 1:33 am to
Did you account for the weather? All of that snow and ice could have easily accounted for the extra time
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 11/29/20 at 1:33 am to
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I loved Daniel Stern in Breaking Away.


Breaking Away is pretty high up in the list of underrated movies. Paul Dooley was great in that too. Stout cast for a low budget narrative movie.
Posted by Frac the world
The Centennial State
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 11/29/20 at 2:03 am to
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Did you account for the weather? All of that snow and ice could have easily accounted for the extra time


Road coming out of Scranton in the shots looked fine. Maybe they hit the snow comin into the Chicago area, but being so early in the morning on Christmas I doubt there was any traffic to cost them another hour or two. Plus the upper Midwest has a fine plow system, I’m sure they would’ve been hitting it hard as soon as it started to come down.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108670 posts
Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:48 am to
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That’s 3-4 hrs I would’ve never forgiven her for if I’m Kevin and analyzed it myself years later.


The fact that they only bothered to call Kevin once is the real kicker. He orders a pizza halfway through the movie and he calls the cops at the end.

But a great observation nonetheless that I nor anyone else here has thought of.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
71849 posts
Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:53 am to
I just learned they’re rebooting home alone for Disney+

Seems impossible with 2020 technology. We’ll see
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29196 posts
Posted on 11/29/20 at 6:39 pm to
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There’s no question I’ll be in a nursing home one day bitching with my grandkids on how Uncle Frank is actually a mobster pedophile while not being able to recognize their own faces.


Me too.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29196 posts
Posted on 11/29/20 at 6:39 pm to
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I just learned they’re rebooting home alone for Disney+

Seems impossible with 2020 technology. We’ll see
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12434 posts
Posted on 11/29/20 at 7:33 pm to
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The fact that they only bothered to call Kevin once is the real kicker. He orders a pizza halfway through the movie and he calls the cops at the end.


In addition to the McAllisters never calling the cops back to see if they'd checked up on Kevin, this is the most glaring plot hole in the movie.

The movie attempts to explain it away as the McAllisters are rushing out to the airport when the lineman says the phone lines are a mess, but Kevin orders a pizza fairly early on, the McAllisters are able to leave a message on their neighbor's machine around the same time, and Kevin calls the cops at the end.
Posted by The Eric
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
20995 posts
Posted on 11/29/20 at 7:59 pm to
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in addition to the McAllisters not calling their own home to see if Kevin would answer



The electrician told the mother that the power was back but the phone lines were a mess and it would likely take days to get them back working.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108670 posts
Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:05 pm to
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The electrician told the mother that the power was back but the phone lines were a mess and it would likely take days to get them back working.


So what? Any parent that wouldn’t try back every 3 hours is a piece of shite.
Posted by The Eric
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
20995 posts
Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:07 pm to
Don’t you so what me!!! I’m one of the OGs of this here thread. Just because you birthed it doesn’t mean you get to call into question my devotion!!!



The French are such pushovers.
This post was edited on 11/29/20 at 8:08 pm
Posted by The Eric
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
20995 posts
Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:10 pm to
Also... I just laughed so hard.

Officer Balzak’s donut got stuck to his phone. Thought it was hilarious and never caught that.
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