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re: Legend Of Cocaine Island - New netflix doc
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:36 am to SlapahoeTribe
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:36 am to SlapahoeTribe
quote:Which is why I laughed a bit when Jamie was like "It's not my story anymore...it's someone else's".
I think that just further illustrates just how gullible this guy is. Hell, you’d have to be partially in fantasy land just to believe some stoner-hippy’s story that he buried millions of dollars of cocaine on some island.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 12:58 pm to CrimsonFever
The feds are the ones who trafficked the coke.
Not the fat Florida bastard.
Once the feds dug it up "allegedly" and flew it back (trafficking) and called to meet him at the tackle shop to give him kilos of coke, it is the feds who are distributing the coke.
Legally, all fat bastard did was give them coordinates and ask for coke in return. Is that wrong? He could get busted for possession, but not when it is a fed who gave it to him.
Even the 60 days in jail was extreme. Textbook entrapment. It does not get more textbook than that. The judge should have thrown out all charges, and formally reprimanded the prosecution.
On the other side of that, the informant that was going to distribute the fat bastard's share, all they ever did was talk about it. No exchange of money or drugs ever occurred, so the conspiracy part was BS too.
I thought it was entertaining.
Not the fat Florida bastard.
Once the feds dug it up "allegedly" and flew it back (trafficking) and called to meet him at the tackle shop to give him kilos of coke, it is the feds who are distributing the coke.
Legally, all fat bastard did was give them coordinates and ask for coke in return. Is that wrong? He could get busted for possession, but not when it is a fed who gave it to him.
Even the 60 days in jail was extreme. Textbook entrapment. It does not get more textbook than that. The judge should have thrown out all charges, and formally reprimanded the prosecution.
On the other side of that, the informant that was going to distribute the fat bastard's share, all they ever did was talk about it. No exchange of money or drugs ever occurred, so the conspiracy part was BS too.
I thought it was entertaining.
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 4/3/19 at 2:16 pm to deeprig9
I'm hoping there's a twist like the feds backing this documentary to get a list of idiots who would be dumb enough to go dig for cocaine in a highly publicized location the feds know about.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 2:26 pm to deeprig9
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deeprig9
I can see both sides of it. I agree that the guy was *apparently* done and only got back in becuase the feds produced him with the coke.
BUT...let's not forget he did everything he possible could to commit this crime he just failed. He went to PR to acquire it but was unsuccessful. He realized his mistake, got digging equipment, then went back to PR a second time to retrieve it. He arranged for a plane to deliver it from PR back to the states. He arranged for a street dealer to take it and distribute it. He had a plan and a person for every step of the process all the way from getting it from the ground to getting it on the streets, the only thing he didn't actually have was the product, and that wasn't for lack of trying. So the feds call him up and say "hey we know you only needed the product, here it is. You can get it in this parking lot" and lo and behold he shows up to the parking lot to take it. I mean..if I went to try to shoot some dude but the gun jammed, I wouldn't get off scot free simply because there was no harm done. The intent was still there, just like he had intent.
I understand that it feels kinda slimy that the feds are the ones that gave it to him, but I mean c'mon. This guy is guilty as sin. I LOVE that the judge was super lenient though and didn't ruin the guys life and helped the ocmmunity, major hat tip to him.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 2:42 pm to WG_Dawg
Dee came to him originally and asked about the story. He was the one that brought up being able to get rid of it for him.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 7:57 pm to CrimsonFever
Thanks for the tip.
enjoyed it.
enjoyed it.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 8:00 pm to WG_Dawg
Intent is only a crime as a rider on top of another crime that was actually committed. Intent, by itself, is not a crime.
Your gun-jamming analogy isn't applicable. Pointing a gun and pulling the trigger in someone's face is a crime, it is aggravated assault whether the bullet comes out or not. The way laws work, planning a drug deal isn't a crime unless the drug deal actually goes down.
Remember, fat Florida bastard said he was giving up on the whole thing, before the fed told him not to give up, offered to go get it for him.
100% textbook entrapment.
Even if you think the community service was an appropriate slap on the wrist, you HAVE to say those feds should have been reprimanded in some way for the role they played in this whole thing. That is not appropriate behavior for law enforcement.
Your gun-jamming analogy isn't applicable. Pointing a gun and pulling the trigger in someone's face is a crime, it is aggravated assault whether the bullet comes out or not. The way laws work, planning a drug deal isn't a crime unless the drug deal actually goes down.
Remember, fat Florida bastard said he was giving up on the whole thing, before the fed told him not to give up, offered to go get it for him.
100% textbook entrapment.
Even if you think the community service was an appropriate slap on the wrist, you HAVE to say those feds should have been reprimanded in some way for the role they played in this whole thing. That is not appropriate behavior for law enforcement.
Posted on 4/4/19 at 10:29 am to deeprig9
I enjoyed it. Not bad for a Netflix flick. Spoilers....
One thing that bothered me was how did hippie dude manage to bury the coke by himself but it supposedly took a damn backhoe to dig it up? The soil couldn't have changed that much. It's not like they built a road or building over where it was buried. I'm suspicious that there was ever any coke to begin with and hippie dude made it all up to have a good story to contribute around the campfire but once everything went down he was in too deep to fess up.
One thing that bothered me was how did hippie dude manage to bury the coke by himself but it supposedly took a damn backhoe to dig it up? The soil couldn't have changed that much. It's not like they built a road or building over where it was buried. I'm suspicious that there was ever any coke to begin with and hippie dude made it all up to have a good story to contribute around the campfire but once everything went down he was in too deep to fess up.
Posted on 4/4/19 at 11:11 am to Napoleon
quote:I would have been ok with them frying him if it had gone through without a hitch the first time, but he had given up and THEY called HIM to convince him to start again. Do agree with everyone that hes incredibly naive and is likely lucky to be alive.
Just saw it, that was textbook entrapment to me. Glad the judge was lenient
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