re: Kyle Chandler To Star as Hal Jordan. Update: Aaron Pierre is John Stewart

People on here constantly blame DEI or being woke when shite fails if it has minority or female leads. To claim otherwise is burying your head in sand right next to people claiming there is no DEI in crap. shite dude SEK brings that crap up all the time in threads for stuff he admits he doesn't even watch.

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There is a number of posters here who are tired of it but when we complain suddenly we get lumped into the DEI defenders because God forbid we actually try to talk about the actual movie or TV rather than all the backstage shite.

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This never happens on the MTV Board.

I’m so very happy I decided to open and read through this very poignant and focused thread this afternoon.

One post, then 2 pages of people complaining about that post.

I present the M/TV Board Trope®

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Team A: It's woke!!!!!

Team B: Nothing is woke!!!

Both: You are crazy, I am the voice of reason!!! Those other guys are derailing every thread!!!

Both: Nuh-Uh. YOU are crazy, I am the voice of reason!!! Those other guys are derailing every thread!!!

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One post, then 2 pages of people complaining about that post.

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You've been quite active in this.

The last page, sure

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That's why I said about 4 or 5.

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There isn't 1. There isn't a single poster that thinks everything that fails is a result of DEI.

I get that you are being hyperbolic, but for your arguments regarding John Stewart to be in good faith, you would have to be genuine.

Otherwise it is a strawman, which is reframing an argument into one that nobody is making in order to easily refute. At worst, that is malicious. At best, it's intellectually dishonest.

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blueboy SEK Masking Boom If it is a popular IP, you can guarantee one of them posting and complaining. Or next do I need to comb through every post and make sure each one is a complaint about DEI?

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I'll agree that a lot / most of their posts are about DEI. But you are accusing posters of truly believing that no minority earned a role in a movie through acting ability:

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they always assume every minority only gets the role because DEI.

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I truly believe there are people on this board who do not believe a non-white person can reasonably be cast in anything and the only time they actually get a role it's only because DEI. Similarly how any non-white person working an above entry level job only is doing so because of affirmative action because they can't possibly be qualified on their own.

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Multiple examples of movies with "strong diverse leads" have been universally loved on this board, which is counter to what you said.

And it appears now you're walking to back to "these guys just always complain" (which is a much more reasonable position)

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But you are accusing posters of truly believing that no minority earned a role in a movie through acting ability

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LINK

When Pedro Pascal is on the heels of being the hottest actor in Hollywood and people here complain that he was cast as Reed Richards and immediately people on jumping on DEI.

People here complained about Heimdall being played by a black man despite Idris Elba being a fantastic actor more than worthy of the role. In fact at this point no one complains about his casting. Same thing with Nick Fury.

Was there people on here that were positive on the casting? Yes, absolutely. I would argue at least half of not more. But you simply can not ignore that some people on here flatly blamed Hollywood trying to be woke or DEI on why these casting were made with the actor selected.

I can make this post way long if I grab a post complaining any time there is an action movie starring a female, as if females haven't been stars in action movies since way back when. To that point:

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Multiple examples of movies with "strong diverse leads" have been universally loved on this board, which is counter to what you said.

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Yes there have been. Which is why I get so annoyed when the above example of people claiming every girl in an action movie will immediately be a girl boss or that they decided to have the lead be female because woke shite.

Thunderbolts is the example I keep going back to for this argument; one of the first responses to the trailer was complaining about casting that wasn't even in the trailer! Some posters on here (again a small handful) are so ate up with the "everything in Hollywood is woke" belief that they see the shite even when it's not there (or they just blindly assume it without watching).

Rey from Star Wars is another good example. People here typically hate her not because she is female, but because her character just sucks so badly. They fumbled her so badly and so epic that at this point it feels like Star Wars can't have any female led projects without people already hating it before even seeing a second of it. So Star Wars as a whole feels like it went from people accepting something different to if there is anything different we hate it and it's different because Disney is woke. I really wish I would find the old threads from back then to look at people's reactions because I am having to go off memory here. But there is a difference between the hate Rey got vs the hate any new Star Wars project gets.

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If your arguments were strong you wouldn’t always be making shite up and using straw men as the basis of all your posts.

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What am I making up? What strawman am I using? I feel that there are posters on here who always bitch DEI or woke when a new project has females and minorities. I am consistent on this topic and across all the others I argue this on.

I could understand if I was claiming almost everyone on this board was homophobic and racist and sexist! Then yeah, I would be making shite up. But I'm not, and I have never made that argument. I have even named the posters who are the worst. I have posted examples to back my claims up. I give evidence to support my side. So please, how am I trying to use a strawman? What was the original point and what did I try to twist it to?

You (Madking) are the one who started the crap with complaining about woke Hollywood always replaced men with women despite not a single thing from this show indicating that is the case here. There is no mention at all of any female leads. I've been the one saying that it's stupid to complain about that without any evidence because the project has a black man who was only created to replace a white comic book character and no one has an issue with that. If John Stewart wasn't a legacy character and instead Lanterns focused on Hal giving up his ring to a new hero who was black people on here would bitch about them race swapping the character like they do in so many other projects. But again we give John Stewart a pass because he's awesome and one of the best characters in the Justice League.

People hated them making Nick Fury black. But everyone admits that Samuel L Jackson killed it in the role. So now we're fine with a black Nick Fury. But people now being fine with it doesn't magically erase the fact that people originally bitched that the change was for DEI or woke.

Ok so that is enough stealing time at work to argue with strangers online. Hopefully I'm making my argument clear and understandable and this wasn't just a giant incomprehensible rant.

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When Pedro Pascal is on the heels of being the hottest actor in Hollywood

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The most overexposed actor, relative to what he brings to a role.

THAT is the subtext you missed, in the complaints.

The first page you linked has no mention of DEI

SEK mentions the trans thing, because Pedro is very vocal about trans shite, on account of his brother's mental illness.

As is typical of this shitty PoliTard infested board, we have multiple pages arguing wokeness and DEI on a show that isn’t fully realized yet. Pitiful.