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re: Just saw Apocalypse Now for the first time

Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:58 am to
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:58 am to
"I wanted a mission and for my sins, they gave me one".

Captain Willard.


This was the best script ever written.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 12:17 pm to
In my top 5 all time list.

Great movie.
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

This was the best script ever written.

It would be hard to argue against that statement.

I doubt if I've ever watched a movie with more poignant dialogue.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
19285 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 4:23 pm to
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was sad when Chef died because he was from New Orleans lol.


Also Blue Duck from Lonesome Dove.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 5:32 pm to
You smell that? Do you smell that?... Napalm, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of napalm in the morning.


.... You know, one time we had a hill bombed, for twelve hours. When it was all over I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' dink body. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like... victory.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28135 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 5:47 pm to
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Hopper was great in this.

He improvised his lines!


Said he was on LSD most of the time during the shoot.

Also Martin Sheen had a serious heart attack during filming...came close to dying
Posted by LuckySo-n-So
Member since Jul 2005
22487 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 8:44 pm to
Saigon.
shite.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103153 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:14 pm to
The French plantation scene adds historical context, yes, but it stops the film itself dead in its tracks for about 20-30 minutes.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33334 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:41 pm to
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The French plantation scene adds historical context, yes, but it stops the film itself dead in its tracks for about 20-30 minutes.


Was much better without it.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27176 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:43 pm to
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Give "Deer Hunter" a watch if you've never seen it. A great Vietnam movie that is a bit underrated imo. (It's not a film about the battlefield, but about some guys who came home).
Mauw!! Mal!! (sp)
This post was edited on 6/4/19 at 9:44 pm
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:57 pm to
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No, its 3h 23m

That's the only version of it I've seen and it's fricking weird.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37747 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 12:04 am to
I’m not sure if there’s a movie with more grit and gravity than Apocalypse Now. You are in virtually every moment and scene and believe pretty much everything that is said and done, even the crazy shite at the end.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39023 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 12:18 am to
Blew me away first time too. Blew me away for about 10 years since I first saw it.

Then watched it again and again. Fell out of love with the movie.

Bloated incoherent mess.

I used to love this movie as a kid but realized over time it's an overrated war movie. Even Coppola's comments about the film upon its release show how in love they were with themselves over this picture.

"This movie isn't about the Vietnam War, this movie IS the Vietnam War."

I mean c'mon man.

It's the only war movie I know of that's pretentious. Which is hard to do for a war movie, really hard. The movie is in love with itself because the director was in love with himself...and Brando was in love with himself.

And Hearts of Darkness shows how the shoot was such a total mess with egos and pretentious method actors all on set...everyone had to get actually drunk, or actually high or just not bother to learn their lines.

Which is why the final product is such a mess.
This post was edited on 6/5/19 at 12:21 am
Posted by the paradigm
Moon Township, PA
Member since Sep 2017
5417 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 12:25 am to
I've still never seen it
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39023 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 12:54 am to
I knew this wouldn't be a popular opinion but the movie falls apart over time and over many viewings.

It's so cool when you first see it and then after inspection and many more viewings comes across as a bloated mess.

It makes Cimineo look like Eastwood in budget directing.

They just shot a million miles of film and the editing doesn't save it. It's a loose, all over the place film. Might have been hip in the 70's but people want structure and coherence and 70's directors were notorious for getting carte blanche and just shooting willy-nilly...it was the auteur decade...which the 80's and 90's rebelled against and the studious said wasting our money is over with - you have a budget, stick to it. Frame shots, storyboard and shoot a few takes...the days of the camera just rolls all the time are over.

The documentary on making this film is actually a better film in retrospect as it shows how Coppola completely lost the cast and crew. But Apocalypse Now is a the finest example of 70's excess.
This post was edited on 6/5/19 at 12:59 am
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
63263 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 7:48 am to
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I’ve read Heart of Darkness, so I knew what to expect
This statement doesn't really make sense.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43973 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 7:56 am to
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Bloated incoherent mess.



Thank you. I'm glad it's not just me.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
63263 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:16 am to
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mizzoubuckeyeiowa
sounds like you just became a jaded person and stopped liking things.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:43 am to
I didn't understand it or like it when I watched for the first time a couple years ago.

Maybe I should rewatch.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94811 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:51 am to
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I knew this wouldn't be a popular opinion but the movie falls apart over time and over many viewings.


I don't want to invalidate your opinion, but this feels like hipster revisionism. You concede you've watched it "many" times. That suggests some level of quality or attractiveness to get to that point.

Now, I'm ready to concede the flaws of the film. I even agree, to a degree, the film carries some pretentiousness.

But few big budget movies/big productions avoid pretentiousness and flaws. I mean, Casablanca is about as perfect a movie one can make, and it certainly has some flaws in execution.

quote:

the editing doesn't save it.


Here's where I have a minority opinion - I like the Redux version and am interested in this "new" director's cut that is reportedly coming.

quote:

The documentary on making this film is actually a better film


I can't go this far, but I agree it is one of the best documentaries on the making of a film, ever.

The film does so many things well, and is so well-acted despite the challenges presented by and for the actors remains one of the most remarkable things in film history.
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