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re: Just popped in Zero Dark Thirty
Posted on 3/21/13 at 7:03 pm to Indiana Tiger
Posted on 3/21/13 at 7:03 pm to Indiana Tiger
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I think it got it's nom for the compound work like SPR got it's nom for the d-day invasion, especially given 10 nominations. For me the movie was painfully uninteresting until they got to Abbottabad. Did not like Chastain's performance at all and was undeserving of a nomination.
Did some of you not like her performance because you didn't find her believable as a CIA operative? just curious?
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Posted on 3/21/13 at 7:44 pm to Michael J Cocks
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Did some of you not like her performance because you didn't find her believable as a CIA operative? just curious?
Believable as a CIA operative? Not specifically. Unless someone is demonstrably great and indispensable at what they do, and she had never done anything really, no one can have can have such contempt for everyone as she did. I was pulling for the terrorists when they were shooting up her car. That's not her fault specifically, but she could have tried different ways of showing it.
Posted on 3/21/13 at 10:42 pm to The Sad Banana
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I see Argo get a lot of play on this board. It never occurred to me to watch it. I do love me some Ben Affleck, too.
Argo is very good as well. Both movies have excellent supporting casts. I really can't see how anyone who is a fan of good movies would dislike ZDT or Argo.
I liked Argo, but didn't care to watch it again right away like I did with ZDT. I watched ZDT twice before taking it back to RedBox and it was just as good the second time. The last movies I can say that about are Drive and Inception.
I haven't seen Django Unchained or Lincoln yet.
Posted on 3/21/13 at 10:50 pm to la_birdman
I really don't know this actress from anything else, and will agree her performance was pretty flatlined. The reason it didn't didn't kill my buzz was because that, in reality the folks that will grind away for years at these things aren't Hollywood. Check Clooney in Syriana-he got fat and shaved himself a receding hairline.
Posted on 3/22/13 at 8:05 am to la_birdman
I thought this movie SUCKED.. It was a complete snooze fest and I typically like movies like this. I completely hate how they downplayed the SEAL team in it too. Way too long to boot. Plus the only eventful part of the movie when the raid happens is barely visable. They couldnt show any training for the SEAL team? You have to show they playing football and horsehoes instead? WTF? They just made the raid seem haphazard and unorganized like it was thrown together at the last minute.
This post was edited on 3/22/13 at 8:15 am
Posted on 3/22/13 at 8:14 am to Backinthe615
Lawless is the movie i recognize her for
she is hot as frick and thought she did a fine a job
and I enjoyed the movie
and I have a man crush on Kyle Chandler
she is hot as frick and thought she did a fine a job
and I enjoyed the movie
and I have a man crush on Kyle Chandler
Posted on 3/22/13 at 8:50 am to Michael J Cocks
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Did some of you not like her performance because you didn't find her believable as a CIA operative?
Don't know what you mean? But I didn't like her in the movie because in every scene her facial movements reminded me of Jim Carrey in the Mask. She was angry so she contorts her face so drastically it's ridiculous. That scene with her and the director or whatever he is, the guy from Friday Night Lights was laughable.
By the way I didn't like him either.
I agree with Catman also on the raid they just made it seem haphazard. Maybe the movie wasn't specifically about the Raid, but every day she went to the director and wrote a number on the window with madface on, was a day that Seal Team was being put together and training and analysts were gathering more intel.
This post was edited on 3/22/13 at 8:51 am
Posted on 3/22/13 at 8:55 am to Walt OReilly
quote:Amen.
and I have a man crush on Kyle Chandler
Posted on 3/22/13 at 9:00 am to Pierre
I just found they focused so much detail on the first 6-7 years on how intel was gathered and what not. Then FINALLY they find the fricking place he is at then NOTHING! Hardly anything at all. Its like the bitch didnt do anything but say Im sure he is there and moan that another day has passed. Well if you are near 100% sure then the movie CERTAINLY didnt make us feel that way based on her evidence. Watching the movie it feels more like a 100% GUESS by her as no other data was given. There was absolutly nothing else going on that they couldnt put in the movie during the same time? fricking boring.
Posted on 3/22/13 at 9:09 am to Catman88
I guess what you guys are taking for granted is the bureaucracy. It's the damn government red tape. They were supposed to be showing you that.
I don't know what you guys were expecting, but I thought the movie was excellently paced and very well acted. Chastain was solid, nothing more.
I don't know what you guys were expecting, but I thought the movie was excellently paced and very well acted. Chastain was solid, nothing more.
Posted on 3/22/13 at 9:17 am to The Sad Banana
Just saw this last night.
She was good. So were the rest - except I didn't find Coach Taylor gave an inspiring performance.
The movie had a lot of holes. If you're going to cover 10 years - don't start out nitty-gritty with a magnifying glass and toothpick and then suddenly pull back to a giant backhoe and dump everything.
It was sort of meh. I can see why it didn't win...and it has nothing to do with politics.
She was good. So were the rest - except I didn't find Coach Taylor gave an inspiring performance.
The movie had a lot of holes. If you're going to cover 10 years - don't start out nitty-gritty with a magnifying glass and toothpick and then suddenly pull back to a giant backhoe and dump everything.
It was sort of meh. I can see why it didn't win...and it has nothing to do with politics.
Posted on 3/22/13 at 9:21 am to The Sad Banana
I liked it a lot.
But i agree I wish they focused a little more on the Seal Team.
I thought Pannetta would have a larger role.
But i agree I wish they focused a little more on the Seal Team.
I thought Pannetta would have a larger role.
Posted on 3/22/13 at 9:23 am to The Sad Banana
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It's the damn government red tape
But all you see he her writing on the wall. WHILE the SEAL team is training and they have a mockup of the compound but the viewer gets to only see her writing on the wall. If you want to show red tape then make it more convincing to the viewer that UBL is in the building. They made it look like a gut feeling from a bitch that hoped he was there. If you give the viewer that feeling then the wait is a whole lot more justified and the govt is acting appropriately.
Was there any organization or character development of any of the SEAL members? They completely made them look like just a bunch of meat heads running at a building with no more training than a bunch of cops. The raid was an afterthought in the movie instead of a climax.
Apparently SEAL teams only run out of helicopters blow up doors and tap the person in front of them on the shoulder every now and then and sometimes clear rooms properly. The whole military operation portion of that movie was a complete and utter joke.
How did they get away with calling the movie Zero Dark Thirty when the raid was an afterthought.
Should have called the movie. CIA Operative on the rag
This post was edited on 3/22/13 at 9:33 am
Posted on 3/22/13 at 9:36 am to Zamoro10
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I can see why it didn't win...and it has nothing to do with politics.
You would be wrong but to each their own I guess.
Posted on 3/22/13 at 9:39 am to RollTide1987
Okay...well, I can see it not winning being justified beyond any Affleck or liberal agenda. I am one of the few on here who thought Argo was pretty average and by the numbers and not the best picture...but it still was a more compelling - better told movie than Zero Dark. Narrative wasn't done well enough for an Oscar caliber movie...and the movie sputters to the finish line with a flat raid ending of all things...which you'd least expect.
This post was edited on 3/22/13 at 9:40 am
Posted on 3/22/13 at 9:40 am to Catman88
quote:What? They didn't know for sure he was there. She felt 100% sure he was there, but they as a unit were not sure he was there. Why would Bigelow show UBL in the compound if the whole premise of her going for this raid was on 60% probability?
If you want to show red tape then make it more convincing to the viewer that UBL is in the building. They made it look like a gut feeling from a bitch that hoped he was there. If you give the viewer that feeling then the wait is a whole lot more justified and the govt is acting appropriately.
quote:Again, Bigelow did that, but she did it in the very beginning with Jason Clarke. You don't need to know anything about the SEALs. There is no point to know antying about the SEALs or their characters. I think it was perfect...Chris Pratt is the wise guy, the joker, and then everyone else.
Was there any organization or character development of any of the SEAL members? They completely made them look like just a bunch of meat heads running at a building with no more training than a bunch of cops. The raid was an afterthought in the movie instead of a climax.
quote:You have to be trolling. That's what SEALs do, bro. It's orchestrated. Every move is planned. They are highly trained, highly agile, incredibly smart and hardened operatives going up against groggy and soft men as well as women in children in the dead of night. I don't have a clue what you guys expected of the raid. It was expertly done.
Apparently SEAL teams only run out of helicopters blow up doors and tap the person in front of them on the shoulder every now and then and sometimes clear rooms properly. The whole military operation portion of that movie was a complete and utter joke.
How did they get away with calling the movie Zero Dark Thirty when the raid was an afterthought.
Should have called the movie. CIA Operative on the rag
Posted on 3/22/13 at 9:41 am to Catman88
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Catman88
You don't have the first clue as to what you are talking about when it comes to the raid on the Bin Laden compound. Matt Bissonnette, the SEAL who came public about the mission with last year's No Easy Day, said that the raid on the Bin Laden compound was about as accurate as anyone could ever get.
Posted on 3/22/13 at 9:49 am to The Sad Banana
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That's what SEALs do, bro. It's orchestrated. Every move is planned
Then SHOW the planning!
The portrayal was nothing more than a LAPD raid on a drug dealers house in detail and scope. Hell I have actually seen far more detail given in movies on such raids. They didnt have any meetings over what they were going to do? Nothing on backup plans and ingress/egress points? Nothing? Just get the call hope in a helicopter and thats it..
Yea great movie there..
Maybe some of you missed the part where the movie is FICTIONAL based on actual events.
Posted on 3/22/13 at 9:50 am to Michael J Cocks
I liked it.
Posted on 3/22/13 at 9:50 am to RollTide1987
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said that the raid on the Bin Laden compound was about as accurate as anyone could ever get.
Well I guess he couldnt see shite either.
They could have just as well filmed it with a dark screen and voices like the 9/11 scenes.
This post was edited on 3/22/13 at 9:52 am
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