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re: 'Judas and the black messiah' Trailer #1 - Daniel Kaluuya, Lakeith Stanfield

Posted on 8/9/20 at 2:10 pm to
Posted by bigman334
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Posted on 8/9/20 at 2:10 pm to
a shame a lot dont know the story here. should be a good movie
Posted by DaleGribble
Bend, OR
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 8/9/20 at 3:18 pm to
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Watching that makes me wonder why we haven't had a Jim Jones movie yet.

Jim Jones was the original rainbow coalition; he took all the rebels and marginalized people in S.F. regardless of race, creed or color and talked revolution and fleeing the oppression of America.

That America was the devil...and revolution was now.

You'd think he'd be a left hero.



And he did it with Harvey Milk's assistance. If facts hurt anyone's feelings, downvote away. Harvey Milk was a POS, but you'd never know that by watching Milk.
This post was edited on 8/9/20 at 3:19 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 8/9/20 at 4:08 pm to
Alex Rackley, Black Panther top brass

Look him up.

Tortured for days and murdered on tape by his fellow Panthers. He was accused of informing to the FBI (He wasn't to my knowledge)

The guys on the tape were caught and tried, including Bobby Seale. Every leftist group demanded they be released or there would be violence.

All found not guilty, except 2. . .who ironically turned state's witness for reduced sentences.
Posted by JW
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 8/9/20 at 4:53 pm to
Even for those not interested on its face -- this story is incredible and Lakeith nails the William O'Neal FBI informant role. Throw in Martin Sheen and Jesse Plemons. Daniel put it all out there (I sat in on the Church speech from the trailer and it was amazing).

Also will look fantastic with Sean Bobbitt as the DP and the time warp locations of Cleveland.

And the trailer didn't reveal much of the explosive real life finale.

Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/9/20 at 5:05 pm to
Daniel Kaluuya, Lakeith Stanfield, and Jesse Plemons is a damn solid cast.
Posted by Audioman213
Member since Dec 2012
1466 posts
Posted on 2/12/21 at 2:28 am to
Film just dropped on HBO Max, so far so good. Really enjoying the cinematography and acting.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 2/12/21 at 3:55 am to
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And he did it with Harvey Milk's assistance.


Didn't realize you were right until a 5 second Google search into S.F.s complicity in the mass suicide. He did it with the whole city's assistance. He was their hero.
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Milk provided legitimacy to Jim Jones. He spoke at Peoples Temple. He praised it in his column in the Bay Area Reporter. He lobbied on Jones’s behalf to President Jimmy Carter, Secretary of Health, Education, and Welfare Joseph Califano, Guyanese Prime Minister Forbes Burnham, and other powerful figures. As Cult City shows, this proved disastrous for many people.

So many local leaders enthusiastically vouching for Jim Jones made it easier for people in positions of responsibility far away to dismiss the charges against him as fantastical. Before the poor drank Jim Jones’s Kool Aid in South America, the powerful did in San Francisco.

Jim Jones held private meetings with Jimmy Carter’s running mate Walter Mondale and his wife, Rosalynn Carter, during the 1976 presidential campaign. San Francisco Mayor George Moscone appointed him chairman of the city’s Housing Commission Authority, effectively making him the city’s largest landlord (scary when thinking of how he treated his tenants in Guyana). Jane Fonda, Huey Newton, Angela Davis, and others heaped praise upon him. Willie Brown compared him to Martin Luther King and Mahatma Gandhi.



S.F. was and is a disaster. Milk probably felt he felt he had to go along with the craziness or believed in it but S.F. created Jim Jones...and not much has changed.
This post was edited on 2/12/21 at 3:59 am
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:16 am to
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Watching that makes me wonder why we haven't had a Jim Jones movie yet.


Not specifically a "Jim Jones movie," but The Sacrament (2013) is basically about him and Jonestown in all but name. It's a found footage type of horror/suspense movie. It's decent.
Posted by 3nOut
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:44 am to
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In what way? Without elaborating, this makes you sound like any movie produced about slavery or black people is "woke." I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that's not what you mean. I haven't seen 12 years a slave since it was in theaters (which was years before "woke" was a thing), and I genuinely don't know what elements you're referring to.




i absolutely hate wokeness in movies and 12 years a slave was not woke.

i thought it did a good job of delineating between kind slave owners and harsh slave owners and people fighting for abolition.
Posted by nicholastiger
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55996 posts
Posted on 2/12/21 at 1:14 pm to
Might as well give this movie all the awards.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 2/12/21 at 1:49 pm to
This movie is going to be used as an epithet for Kmele Foster, Glenn Loury, and all black, non-communists.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 2/12/21 at 1:50 pm to
Did "Milk" cover his serial child rapes?
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
4400 posts
Posted on 2/14/21 at 7:59 pm to
Really liked the movie. Probably the best new movie I've seen during the pandemic.
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/14/21 at 8:55 pm to
I just watched it. Really well done, and great cast. LaKeith Stanfield was perfectly cast as the rat O'Neal, because he always looks like he has something on his mind, that's eating him up inside.
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