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re: John Boyega is upset with Star Wars fans

Posted on 3/31/25 at 3:40 pm to
Posted by JetsetNuggs
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 3:40 pm to
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He was just a failed attempt at the fool archetype in the Hero's journey


He's the lever Palpatine uses to take control of the Republic. Padme is away from her duties in the senate leaving Jar Jar in charge and Palpatine knows he respects her.

They talk about needing to grant Palpatine emergency powers in the war and Palpatine says someone radical would have to propose that. He says Padme would do it. Jar Jar hears that and proposes it to the Senate.

They could've used a less annoying character but that was his purpose.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 3:42 pm to
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My problem with that specific quote is that he's insinuating that the cookie should be a fully chocolate cookie, rather than a more realistic representation of a population, especially the one that watches these movies.


Bingo, much like everyone else on the left, he isn't interested in representation. He wants preferential OVERrepresentaion that benefits him.

Besides, didn't we just leave this party?

Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 3:44 pm to
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They could've used a less annoying character but that was his purpose.


Yea, he was supposed to be the prequel's C-3PO. They just went too annoying and it wasn't a character fun enough to look past.

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They talk about needing to grant Palpatine emergency powers in the war and Palpatine says someone radical would have to propose that. He says Padme would do it. Jar Jar hears that and proposes it to the Senate.


Seems so many either forgot or completely overlooked this scene. When Palpatine's advisor says "If only Senator Amidala were here" or whatever the exact line was, and Palpatine gives this exaggerated nod of agreement, then it just pans to Jar Jar "contemplating" . It wasn't even difficult manipulation.
This post was edited on 3/31/25 at 3:47 pm
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 3:46 pm to
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They could've used a less annoying character but that was his purpose.

Agreed, but there's a "Look what I can do!" at play with GL employing the first fully CGI character in a feature, too.

Jar-Jar stumbled so Gollum could crawl.
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 3:46 pm to
“What’s a Nubian?”
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 3:52 pm to
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Boyega needs to point his frustration at the Chinese and Chinese market. That’s where the racism he’s talking about really is.

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Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 3:54 pm to
Also isn't helping his cause with "most whitest"
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 3:56 pm to
From the Meryl Streep Narnia thread:

Posted by Dam Guide
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 5:06 pm to
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yeah Force Awakens was pretty great when it came out. everyone loved it. it was a solid, solid base to build a great sequel trilogy on. the only thing that is unforgivable is that they didnt reunite Han, Luke, Leia, and Chewie on screen while all the actors were still alive. just no excuse for that. Han dying was fine but should have happened after they got them together.


There was a lot of this is basically a retelling Episode 4 talk when it came out, but it did lay down a good base and had potential.....for Rian to poop on.

This post was edited on 3/31/25 at 5:07 pm
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 5:09 pm to
Problem being that “reinventing” a story or character typically breaks what was appealing about them to begin with.


There are exceptions but they tend to be like Katie Sackoff as Starbuck… still a lot of what makes the character appealing but with tits.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 5:09 pm to
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Agreed. TBF to Boyega, he did get a lot of shite when the very first trailer showed him in a stormtroopers outfit.


I honestly forgot about that, the SW fans did really go hard on him before the movie because of the clone trooper issue. I didn't have an issue with his character, and I think most didn't have much of an issue after TFA released.

Him being upset about that is fair, how his character turned out needs to be a discussion he has with Rian. Rian screwed the trilogy hard and JJ moronically took it to another Emperor ending...
This post was edited on 3/31/25 at 5:10 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 5:13 pm to
Boyega: Star Wars is too white

Fans: What about Lando, Bail Organa, and Mace Windu?

Boyega: It is racist for you to name the non-white people in Star Wars, because something something cookies.

Fans: Oh frick off, man

Boyega: I'd like to do more Star Wars, please. If you feel put off by my race baiting, it means your fanbase is toxic and racist
This post was edited on 3/31/25 at 5:17 pm
Posted by Sam Quint
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 5:41 pm to
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There was a lot of this is basically a retelling Episode 4 talk when it came out

Very true, but it didn't seem entirely directionless and pointless like it turned out to be
Posted by Sam Quint
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 5:46 pm to
Also let's not forget about the prominent Jewish figure in the prequel trilogy. I recall a prominent asian figure among the separatists as well.
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 6:14 pm to
The casting had nothing to do with it. The writing was some of the worst in tent pole movie history. The 20 minute segment of TRoS where they go from the space quicksand, the dagger being right where they entered the tunnel (the roof of which is space quicksand), the rando giant snake healing and the rando perfect vantage point to look at the knife thingy - might be the shittiest 20 minutes in film history.

Boyega is a decent actor. He was the only good actor in Pacific Rim 2, but the movie sucked too. But those are two huge roles for a young actor to be offered. I mean, you don't say no to a Star Wars role. It's not his fault that the movies sucked.
Posted by MasterKnight
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Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 6:25 pm to
I just read the article. He seems to still be upset about a movie that tanked many years ago. If he was that upset about the film process, why did he not just ask to be released from it?

Fans do not care about the race of the actor. They care about character development and storyline. Darth Vader was voiced by a black actor. Lando is a beloved character bc he was fricking cool as shite. He is black.

No one cares about a character that always yells "Rey" and can somehow yield a lightsaber in a battle without having the Force. He is the ultimate race baiter and his career is stalling and wants to blame others rather this own acting.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 6:42 pm to
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The 20 minute segment of TRoS where they go from the space quicksand, the dagger being right where they entered the tunnel (the roof of which is space quicksand), the rando giant snake healing and the rando perfect vantage point to look at the knife thingy - might be the shittiest 20 minutes in film history.


I swear I have a mental block from having witnessed it once and never again.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 6:44 pm to
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He is the ultimate race baiter and his career is stalling and wants to blame others rather this own acting.

He and Kelly Marie Tran need to find the same deserted island and go off to point fingers at each other
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 6:48 pm to
I disagree with him but they did mess up his character. A storm trooper becoming a jedi would have been bad arse.
Posted by Friendly Satan
Member since Nov 2024
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 6:49 pm to
What else has this “actor” done?
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