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Joaquin Phoenix signs on to play the Joker in stand alone origin story film

Posted on 7/10/18 at 6:52 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 7/10/18 at 6:52 pm
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Way back in February we heard that Joaquin Phoenix was in talks to star as The Joker in an upcoming origin movie, and today The Hollywood Reporter says that it’s a done deal.

The Joker will be part of a new brand of DC Comics movies at Warner Bros. and won’t be connected to the DCEU. Instead, it will be a much lower budget movie (in the $55 million range) and “more experimental in tone and content” according to The Hollywood Reporter. The Joker will be an “exploration of a man disregarded by society [that] is not only a gritty character study, but also a broader cautionary tale,” Warner Bros. said.

The Hangover’s Todd Phillips is directing The Joker. He also co-wrote the script with The Fighter’s Scott Silver. We had heard that the legendary Martin Scorsese would be producing the movie, but that news wasn’t confirmed by The Hollywood Reporter today.

The Joker will begin shooting this September in New York City. A release date hasn’t been set at this time.


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Posted by Sus-Scrofa
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Posted on 7/10/18 at 6:54 pm to
Yeah, he’ll die afterwards too.
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 7/10/18 at 6:55 pm to
I'm sure one of you comic nerds can correct me... But isn't the appeal of the Joker that he doesn't have an origin?
Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 7/10/18 at 6:58 pm to
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I'm sure one of you comic nerds can correct me... But isn't the appeal of the Joker that he doesn't have an origin


There's a version of the joker that was a failed stand up comedian and became the Red Hood (not to be confused with the Jason Todd version)
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 7/10/18 at 7:06 pm to






I’ll probably watch it. Just seemed appropriate.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 7/10/18 at 7:10 pm to
He was forced to be the red hood of the red hood gang. He had to do it or his pregnant wife would get murdered. Well, Batman tried to stop it and inadvertently created the Joker.

The Killing Joke
Posted by The Eric
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 7/10/18 at 7:11 pm to
I’m sorry. DC is just so bad at building any kind of real universe.
Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 7/10/18 at 7:13 pm to
The funny thing about that gif is that in Ancient Rome, the thumbs down actually meant that the losing gladiator got to live.
Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
13299 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 7:14 pm to
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I’m sorry. DC is just so bad at building any kind of real universe.


What part of standalone do you not understand? I am not defending WB here, but at least use facts when bitching
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 7/10/18 at 7:15 pm to
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But isn't the appeal of the Joker that he doesn't have an origin?




The Joker doesn't really work without Batman. The whole point of the character is to be the complete antithesis of Batman.

This is a baaddd idea, as he can't carry his own film/arc without really reqwriting the character.
This post was edited on 7/11/18 at 12:13 am
Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
13299 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 7:47 pm to
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The Joker doesn't really work without Batman. The whole point of the character is to be the complete antithesis of Batman.

This is a baaddd idea, as he can't carry his own film/arc without really reqreiting the character.


This I agree with.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/10/18 at 8:03 pm to
Batman 89 was the Jokers origin story.

Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/10/18 at 8:11 pm to
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I’m sorry. DC is just so bad at building any kind of real universe.


They invented the comic universe.
Posted by WeBleedCrimson
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 7/10/18 at 8:11 pm to
He would play better Lex Luthor than Jesse Eisenberg
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/10/18 at 8:13 pm to
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Batman 89 was the Jokers origin story.


Not even close.

The Dark Knight got it right. Conflicting origins leaving the audience with no real answer.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40094 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 8:27 pm to
That benchmark will never be met again. Heath Ledger became a real-life Joker imo.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Member since Nov 2008
51606 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 8:31 pm to
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This is a baaddd idea, as he can't carry his own film/arc without really reqreiting the character.


I get what you're saying but this could work. Phoenix picks good roles, so it's possible this has a strong script that really sold him.
Posted by biglego
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 7/10/18 at 9:16 pm to
Phoenix is talented enough to do Joker, but i think there will be issues beyond him. who is asking for a Joker origin? what is Joker without Batman? And even though it’s a stand-alone movie, we’ve just seen Joker in suicide squad and DC is trying to build it’s universe. This might confuse casual movie goers and in any event does nothing to build the DCU. It might clash with what DCU is trying to do.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 7/10/18 at 9:35 pm to
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“exploration of a man disregarded by society [that] is not only a gritty character study, but also a broader cautionary tale,”




I'm so fricking sick of movie companies having a hard on for "gritty" films.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51606 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 9:45 pm to
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DC is trying to build it’s universe. This might confuse casual movie goers and in any event does nothing to build the DCU


Rumor is they're getting away from a shared universe and just making stand alone films. I actually think that's the right idea.
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