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re: JJ Abrams wrote all 3 screenplays for the sequel trilogy, Johnson scrapped everything
Posted on 3/6/18 at 2:11 pm to OMLandshark
Posted on 3/6/18 at 2:11 pm to OMLandshark
Rian Johnson deserves to get so much more shite for what he did to the franchise.
I need ep9 to be about 3 hours long to fix what happened in TLJ and to actually tell a story.
Nothing happened in TLJ
NOTHING
I need ep9 to be about 3 hours long to fix what happened in TLJ and to actually tell a story.
Nothing happened in TLJ
NOTHING
This post was edited on 3/6/18 at 2:17 pm
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Posted on 3/6/18 at 2:19 pm to Antonio Moss
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Even with how bad VIII is, there is plenty there for IX. It's salvageable.
What is salvageable? Rey is perfect and her arc is effectively over. Finn was fricked out a decent arc in the last movie. Luke died a bitter old crazy man doing nothing. They could have given Leia an appropriate death, but she’s just going to die now. Kylo Ren has to die. The Resistance and the First Order are seemingly fricked. I guess Poe can fly again and Rose can keep preaching about communism.
What the frick can be salvaged from this dumpster fire? It’s all totally fricked. I do not envy JJ Abrams having to make a sequel to this. With the possible exception of George Lucas and Mark Hamill, I don’t think anyone hates this movie more than he does.
This post was edited on 3/6/18 at 10:40 pm
Posted on 3/6/18 at 2:21 pm to Antonio Moss
It's odd how the LucasFilm story group exerts so much control over the expanded universe yet let the directors pretty much have their way with the overarching movie trilogy.
You can have different directors, but you have to have a single vision in place for the basic outline of where you want to take Episodes 7, 8, and 9. If you go back and watch 7, it's almost comical how JJ Abrams laid down so many plot threads that were either brushed aside or completely ignored in 8.
8 failed to introduce any new plot threads and ended in such a fashion that they could virtually do anything with Episode 9 because nothing from 8 happened to lead into a new film.
You can have different directors, but you have to have a single vision in place for the basic outline of where you want to take Episodes 7, 8, and 9. If you go back and watch 7, it's almost comical how JJ Abrams laid down so many plot threads that were either brushed aside or completely ignored in 8.
8 failed to introduce any new plot threads and ended in such a fashion that they could virtually do anything with Episode 9 because nothing from 8 happened to lead into a new film.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 2:21 pm to OMLandshark
TFA set up the trilogy PERFECTLY and TLJ took a shite all over it.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 2:25 pm to OMLandshark
quote:Nothing.
What the frick can be salvaged from this dumpster fire?
quote:This.
It’s all totally fricked
Posted on 3/6/18 at 2:37 pm to AlxTgr
I need to abandon this thread before you guys post me in to having a rage induced stroke.
This post was edited on 3/6/18 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 3/6/18 at 2:46 pm to BulldogXero
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You can have different directors, but you have to have a single vision in place for the basic outline of where you want to take Episodes 7, 8, and 9. If you go back and watch 7, it's almost comical how JJ Abrams laid down so many plot threads that were either brushed aside or completely ignored in 8.
It's like bad improv. Instead of "Yes and" as your partner adds to the story, Rian John effectively said, "frick That" to most of the new threads JJ laid down. It's actually astounding just how much TLJ felt the need to go, "Nu uh!" to the previous movie.
You'd swear JJ had been ousted in disgrace and the studio was sending him a hearty frick YOU with that movie.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 2:48 pm to BulldogXero
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nothing from 8 happened to lead into a new film.
There were two things:
1. The death of Snoke and Kylo Ren becoming supreme leader
2. The distress call to the outer rim.
Dave Filoni just gave Lucasfilm a hanging fricking curveball for them to hit out of the park with Lothal being in the Outer Rim, the revalation that Hera Syndulla has a force-sensitive child who would now be in his 30s, and the fact that Admiral Thrawn is still out there.
This post was edited on 3/6/18 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 3/6/18 at 2:49 pm to OMLandshark
Seems like they just could have used the same director for all three - shocking concept I know.
ETA: That said, I don't think how bad everyone thinks 8 was should lead to revisionist history of 7. 7 was not interesting and who knows if the other two would have followed the same pattern.
ETA: That said, I don't think how bad everyone thinks 8 was should lead to revisionist history of 7. 7 was not interesting and who knows if the other two would have followed the same pattern.
This post was edited on 3/6/18 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 3/6/18 at 2:53 pm to OMLandshark
First and foremost she is at best speculating.
JJ didn't write scripts to 8 and 9(writing now)
He may have written vague outlines that could be followed.
Rian Johnson started writing 8 before 7 even began filming. He turned in a draft before 7 was finished.
Scripts are hard to write and take a lot of time. JJ didn't just waste time writing 2 scripts that would be scrapped.
You guys can be mad about the last jedi, but I think this is something being blown out of proportion.
JJ didn't write scripts to 8 and 9(writing now)
He may have written vague outlines that could be followed.
Rian Johnson started writing 8 before 7 even began filming. He turned in a draft before 7 was finished.
Scripts are hard to write and take a lot of time. JJ didn't just waste time writing 2 scripts that would be scrapped.
You guys can be mad about the last jedi, but I think this is something being blown out of proportion.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 2:55 pm to Rhames
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I think this is something being blown out of proportion.
Coming up on a 3 month meltdown at this point with no end in sight.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 3:06 pm to OMLandshark
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Rey is perfect and her arc is effectively over.
Completely disagree. Rey had almost no character development in VIII. She has to be the focal point of IX (should have been the focal point of VIII). Rey knows almost nothing about herself or her power. She "awoke" a week ago and her believed-to-be guide taught her nothing.
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What the frick can be salvaged from this dumpster fire?
It won't redeem VIII but there are still effective, meaningful ways to end the Skywalker saga. It will shine a light on the glaring problems with VIII but that ship has unfortunately sailed.
This post was edited on 3/6/18 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 3/6/18 at 3:07 pm to Rhames
JJ had a central vision for what he wanted the sequel trilogy to be, and I think all Johnson used were set ideas really. I mean the dark side training... nothing. Instead we half the film on an OJ chase and being lectured about how jockeys are evil. There's no way that crystal cave was just designed for Chewie to stupidly fly through it, which he'd have to read the script to know there was an outlet.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 3:08 pm to Antonio Moss
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Completely disagree. Rey had almost no character development in VIII. She has to be the focal point of IX (should have been the focal point of VIII). Rey knows almost nothing about herself or her power. She "awoke" a week ago and her believed-to-be guide taught her nothing.
Rey instantly gets everything though. Who cares?
Posted on 3/6/18 at 3:10 pm to OMLandshark
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Rey instantly gets everything though. Who cares?
Does she? What major obstacle did she overcome in VIII? Her character is essentially the same at the end of the film as she was at the beginning.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 3:12 pm to Antonio Moss
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Does she?
Yes
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What major obstacle did she overcome in VIII?
She's able to equal Kylo Ren and the Pratoreon Guard. She lifts tons of rocks when we've never seen that before.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 3:13 pm to OMLandshark
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JJ had a central vision for what he wanted the sequel trilogy to be, and I think all Johnson used were set ideas really. I mean the dark side training... nothing. Instead we half the film on an OJ chase and being lectured about how jockeys are evil. There's no way that crystal cave was just designed for Chewie to stupidly fly through it, which he'd have to read the script to know there was an outlet.
I don't think JJ had anything in mind other than general concepts maybe. The last jedi is all Rian.
JJ actually wasn't even going to have a writing credit for TFA until they couldn't fix Arndts script and did a complete rewrite.
I also have a theory that Rey was Leia and Han's daughter but they scrapped that idea when the shoot for TFA went on a break after Harrison's injury.
This post was edited on 3/6/18 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 3/6/18 at 3:15 pm to Frac the world
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We’ve just got to accept our fate that Star Wars is effectively over for us.
It's been over for awhile.
Probably since 1983.
Some might now look fondly on the prequels - but they're still a pig with lipstick.
It's been over 30 years and we still really just have 3 films worth repeat viewings.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 3:16 pm to OMLandshark
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She's able to equal Kylo Ren
She never fought Ren in VIII
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and the Pratoreon Guard.
With Ren
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She lifts tons of rocks when we've never seen that before.
Meh, that's not that crazy in the grand scheme of the force.
But more importantly, away from physical attributes, what is her role in this entire story? Why her? What is she supposed to do?
That the fodder that should have been explored in VIII that must be explored in IX.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 3:18 pm to Antonio Moss
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She never fought Ren in VIII
They had equal power that she was able to break the lightsaber.
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But more importantly, away from physical attributes, what is her role in this entire story? Why her? What is she supposed to do?
Really any form of the most basic of struggles. This is my single biggest problem with the movie in that it has no protagonist or central struggle to speak of aside from nihilistic bullshite.
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