re: JJ Abrams wrote all 3 screenplays for the sequel trilogy, Johnson scrapped everything

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Rebels, a cartoon for children, has a more compelling storyline than the current live action films. That is fricking sad.

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Because Dave Filoni actually loves SW and can tell a story. I have some issues with Rebels (a little childish at points) but between that and Clone Wars he has really done a lot for the universe. If anyone should get to write a feature film for SW its Filoni.

You can blame Johnson all you want, but it was LucasFilm/Disney that let him do his own thing. If there was a singular vision that Abrams and LucasFilm laid out at the beginning, they should have stuck to it. Sure a few tweaks here and there is needed, but to let another writer/director scrap everything and effectively start from scratch is just dumb. Someone on the boards said TLJ felt more like a stand alone movie and I agree with them.

JJ didn't have an entire version. He didn't even become a writer on TFA until after Arndt couldn't finish the script. Then JJ and Kasden started over. I actually think Rian had already been announced at this point.


The only actual outlines were Lucas's which were scrapped.

JJ may have had some ideas on where the ST could go but nothing more than general concepts.


This isn't something to get mad about, because it simply just isn't true.

You really think JJ Abrams wrote scripts to all three movies and Disney just threw them out?


Do you know how hard it is to write just a script? Now add 2 more. Now you're the head of your own production company. Yeah. They guy totally wasted his time and wrote 2 entire movies and Disney threw them out.


I'm not defending the last jedi I'm just telling you Dasiey is a little confused


So when did JJ have the time to write said scripts? He basically took over and re wrote the force Awakens in January 2014 with production starting may 2014. (The script actually wasn't finished at this point)

Ohh and by that time Rian had already been hired by Disney to write and direct the last jedi.


I'm not defending the movie here. Hate on it all you want but this notion isn't correct.

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You really think JJ Abrams wrote scripts to all three movies and Disney just threw then out?

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Rough drafts: yes. Every plot thread JJ set up for him was thrown out the fricking window. Aside from saying Rey’s parentage is pointless, what does he follow up with? The start doesn’t make any sense from what happened in the last film. He gave JJ and the audience the middle finger and Kennedy didn’t give a frick.

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Do you know how hard it is to write just a script? Now add 2 more. Now you're the head if your own production company. Yeah. They guy totally wasted his time and wrote 2 entire movies and Disney threw them out.

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JJ typically knows how to quickly build a universe. He and Damon came up with the first 13 episodes of LOST together with a rough outline of where they wanted the series to go, and then Carlton took over for JJ.

JJ is typically an excellent producer more so than a director and has a great record on leaving his franchises in competent hands once he goes onto other projects. I had no reason to doubt he didn’t do the same with his precious Star Wars. I never expected though that JJ would leave it in the hands of someone who despised not only his vision of Star Wars, but despised the Star Wars mythos and morals in general.

I’m thoroughly convinced JJ modeled the outline of the sequel trilogy on a show he previously wrote for “Avatar: The Last Airbender” knowing it’s just similar and different enough from the original Star Wars trilogy to work, not to mention both films utilize similar environments in their respected films/seasons, and Johnson just went completely off the rails with it. Sure he kept some of the environments JJ wanted, and roughly Rey and Kylo Ren’s relationship, but that’s it.

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So when did JJ have the time to write said scripts? He basically took over and re wrote the force Awakens in January 2014 with production starting may 2014. (The script actually wasn't finished at this point)

Ohh and by that time Rian had already been hired by Disney to write and direct the last jedi.

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I don’t think the script was probably fully formed, but I think there’s a pretty good chance he found the time to create the arc he wanted Rey and Kylo to go through and wrote some dialog there (which may explain why those are the only good scenes in the film), probably a few other scenes and environments he wanted to see, and probably left the filler out. JJ has a pretty good track record on this, having wrote the final scene to LOST when he was shooting the Pilot. I have no reason to think he didn’t write some scenes that were coming to his head and had rough outlines on things that were a bit boring and he could get to later.

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the "SJW" angle on this movie is hilariously overblown.

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It really isn't. In fact it isn't harped on enough. Every male character is a failure. It's the chicks who save the day. Luke did fool the bad guys for a bit but the old white male power died for no reason. New female characters were added for no apparent or useful reason and Leia was given the superman powers.

It was garbage.

It was SJW garbage.

This is coming with someone who loved Rogue One and I had no problem with the Awakens even with all the flaws.

I guess you could argue the SJW garbage was overblown because there were so many other plot holes and weak writing that there is no point arguing something so minor but the need to create new powerful female role models lead to some of the other worthless meaningless crap scenes.

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JJ even changed things in the force awakens because Rian asked him to.

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That’s blown out of proportion, and I can’t believe I agree with Rian here, but it was the correct choice: send R2D2 with Rey instead of BB-8. That’s really it. There’s no way in hell JJ had any idea with that closing scene Luke’s next action was going to be throwing the lightsaber over his shoulder.

The flashback scene was changed



The final scene with luke was changed.


Originally Rey found luke with rocks floating all around him. Rian asked that be changed because of the whole cut off from the force thing.

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As for the Forceback I believed he requested things be taken out. The article about that came out after the force Awakens

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In fact it isn't harped on enough

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Oh FFS. Put it in your blog.