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re: It's here! Nerdrotic's TOP 5 Woke Hollywood Disasters of 2024!

Posted on 12/31/24 at 9:56 pm to
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 12/31/24 at 9:56 pm to
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"what is SHOWN about them as Spiderwoman? Where's the backstory?" You skipped over that.


Uh, no. I didn’t. I literally said in a previous post that it was obviously bad writing.

Bad writing =\= woke

You’re the one that thinks that’s mutually exclusive.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 12/31/24 at 10:06 pm to
Just so we're clear, they SHOWED 3 spiderwomen in costume, but gave zero context, no back story, no 'Peter Parker' level origin explanation of WHY they're 'Spiderwomen, at all?

Well, yeah. That's super bad writing. It's also incoherent 'yay-women!' nonsense. Some may call that 'woke', ala Mary Sue style. But it's not as bad as gender or race swapping characters, like has been done dozens of times in the MCU and other places.
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 12/31/24 at 10:11 pm to
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Just so we're clear, they SHOWED 3 spiderwomen in costume, but gave zero context, no back story, no 'Peter Parker' level origin explanation of WHY they're 'Spiderwomen, at all?

And again, this was in the bad guys dream of the future. It never actually happens in the movie.
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It's also incoherent 'yay-women!' nonsense. Some may call that 'woke', ala Mary Sue style.

It really wasn't.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 12/31/24 at 10:25 pm to
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And again, this was in the bad guys dream of the future



Luke Skywalker had a bad dream so then decided he had to kill his nephew level bad, it sounds like.

Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 12/31/24 at 10:27 pm to
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Just so we're clear, they SHOWED 3 spiderwomen in costume, but gave zero context, no back story, no 'Peter Parker' level origin explanation of WHY they're 'Spiderwomen, at all?


I don’t think anyone is disputing that. Hence the “bad writing”.

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It's also incoherent 'yay-women!' nonsense. Some may call that 'woke', ala Mary Sue style. But it's not as bad as gender or race swapping characters, like has been done dozens of times in the MCU and other places.


That’s not what a Mary Sue is.

And bad writing isn’t exclusive to female characters.

You’re stretching this to justify your OP about this “woke” list.
Posted by funnystuff
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Posted on 12/31/24 at 10:34 pm to
You haven’t explained why it should be woke honorable mention. Honorable mention means almost making the list, but being just shy of it. If it is not woke, as you stated, why would it be woke honorable mention.


Feels like an everything I don’t like is woke vibe
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 12/31/24 at 10:37 pm to
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You’re stretching this to justify your OP about this “woke” list.


No, not really. It's not MINE. It's a video I posted by Nerdrotic of HIS top 5 woke things.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 12/31/24 at 10:38 pm to
Yeah, I did. Read again.
Posted by Jay Are
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Posted on 1/1/25 at 12:33 am to
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Luke Skywalker had a bad dream so then decided he had to kill his nephew level bad, it sounds like.


Yeah, that was definitely bad, and you'd find yourself backed into the same corner trying to explain how it was woke.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 1/1/25 at 8:17 am to
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Nerdrotic's


All he is these days is clickbait. He hasn't been interested in generating actual, informative content once he realized he had a base he could pander to.

He's basically a worse version of the Drinker, who will at least - on occasion - actual demonstrate a knowledge of the medium.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 1/1/25 at 8:27 am to
"these days"?

He's as he's always been. Talking about the good and bad that's coming out of Hollywood. With an emphasis on comic book-based content because he's a lifelong fan, collector and oh yeah, owned a comic bookstore for 10 years.

And as Hollywood studios dump more and more $ into trash projects like The Acolyte and Rings of Power, it only stands to reason that's going to get more and more attention from fans and content creators who cover this stuff.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
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Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:20 am to
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What was "woke" in this besides it had women? They weren't even superheroes, they ran around scared the whole time then the Pepsi sign killed the bad guy.


I find some confuse woke with having more ethnic, homosexual or female characters in a show or movies than they are comfortable with.

For me woke is exaggerating social-political narratives to the extreme to make extreme and one-sided socio-political points or statements, and part of that might be the overreaching use of diversity in the cast to do so.

I don't consider the former without the latter to be woke. I think some tend to do so.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:24 am to
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My understanding from folks that watched it,


You tracked down both of them?
Posted by illuminatic
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Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:42 am to
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Happy now? I don't agree with Gary. I was giving him an out, as to WHY it may be 'woke',


Gary? Lmao. I hope to God you're trolling at this point. If not, I'm sure Gary appreciates your Patreon and private Discord memberships.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:45 am to
Yes. Gary Buechler is his name.

Posted by Laugh More
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Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:47 am to
Many people see the fact that it was made at all as being woke.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:58 am to
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I've explained it 2x.

I shall not explain a third.


You wear a fedora and wonder why women won't go out with you, don't you.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 1/1/25 at 10:04 am to
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You wear a fedora and wonder why women won't go out with you, don't you.





Posted by JakeFromStateFarm
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Posted on 1/1/25 at 10:20 am to
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Joker 2 - A Folie a Deux

Calling this movie “dogshit” is an insult to dogs…and shitting.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 1/1/25 at 10:39 am to
Madame Web wasn't woke

Hell, Kraven was more woke

They practically sold the movie off the chest of Sidney Sweeney.

You know EXACTLY what you are selling when you cast:









I never watched it, but felt like it was being sold as:

A) Spider-man adjacent
B) Don't you want to frick these women?
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