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It's amazing how much Netflix' binge model now hurts its top shows like Stranger Things
Posted on 6/16/22 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 6/16/22 at 5:15 pm
Stranger Things came less than 3 weeks ago and now it's virtually gone from the entire mind of the viewing public and media.
Just look at this board. There are numerous discussions about a dogshit Star Wars show that the fans openly hate, yet it's week to week to week episodes keep the discussion going and the story fresh in people minds.
Meanwhile, Stranger Things, an immensely better product than anything Disney Star Wars has ever thought about producing, just released what may be its best season to date (S1 probably still better but whatever, you get the point), and nobody is saying hardly anything about it anymore and most people probably binged it over the Memorial Day weekend and haven't thought about it again since. It also got lost among the Top Gun/Obi Wan ferver during its release.
I know Netflix made their bones off the binge season drop model, but for their premier properties (which they don't have many anymore besides ST) they should really reconsider and at least drop down to 2 episodes per week or something. And I Never thought as a viewer I'd say that.
Just look at this board. There are numerous discussions about a dogshit Star Wars show that the fans openly hate, yet it's week to week to week episodes keep the discussion going and the story fresh in people minds.
Meanwhile, Stranger Things, an immensely better product than anything Disney Star Wars has ever thought about producing, just released what may be its best season to date (S1 probably still better but whatever, you get the point), and nobody is saying hardly anything about it anymore and most people probably binged it over the Memorial Day weekend and haven't thought about it again since. It also got lost among the Top Gun/Obi Wan ferver during its release.
I know Netflix made their bones off the binge season drop model, but for their premier properties (which they don't have many anymore besides ST) they should really reconsider and at least drop down to 2 episodes per week or something. And I Never thought as a viewer I'd say that.
This post was edited on 6/16/22 at 5:17 pm
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Posted on 6/16/22 at 5:27 pm to Jack Ruby
I could see Netflix changing their business model to have a weekly release of original programing. My question would be are people signing up to watch something like stranger things then canceling?
Posted on 6/16/22 at 5:28 pm to Jack Ruby
I never liked it, and have been wondering for a while now when streaming services would go back to a more periodic schedule. You're right. Shows are talked about longer and stick around social media longer when they come out weekly. And people who say they hate to wait...it's not that hard. And it makes the show more enjoyable when anticipation is involved.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 5:46 pm to broadhead
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omething like stranger things then canceling?
I’ve been on pause for awhile. I will unpause when all of season 4 is released, then pause again.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 6:36 pm to Jack Ruby
I used to come on here and rant about how screwed up binging TV series seemed to me. Now I love finding an old show I missed and binging every season of it. I did that with The Wire, Hannibal, The Man in the High Castle, Counterpart, Homeland, Homecoming, Vice Principals, Boardwalk Empire, and more I know I'm forgetting. I didn't start watching The Expanse until Season 5, so I got to binge all of that and only wait on the last few seasons.
I don't think I've watched anything week to week since the third seasons of Fargo, and Snowfall (both 2019). The crazy part of it is I still have cable!
I usually wait for three or four episodes to come out now before I start a new season of a show. I miss out on the threads about episodes, but I don't feel like I'm really missing much.
I don't think I've watched anything week to week since the third seasons of Fargo, and Snowfall (both 2019). The crazy part of it is I still have cable!
I usually wait for three or four episodes to come out now before I start a new season of a show. I miss out on the threads about episodes, but I don't feel like I'm really missing much.
This post was edited on 6/16/22 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 6/16/22 at 6:47 pm to chinese58
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used to come on here and rant about how screwed up binging TV series seemed to me. Now I love finding an old show I missed and binging every season of i
Finding an old show and blasting through it is not the same. Yeah, it's great that way to just sit down and watch a whole season or series but it doesnt matter because the show is long over.
Having a huge show go week to week and stay in the lexicon and news cycle of the public for a couple of months, and finding all the breakdowns and podcasts and analysis clips of people discussing interesting plot points is half the fun of mysterious shows like Stranger Things.
The first show I remember really taking hold of this was Lost, and True Detective S1 used it amazingly as well. but the tactic has been around for decades Hell, "who shot J.R." lasted for the entire summer after the season finale, and that was back in the 80s with no internet.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 6:51 pm to Jack Ruby
Netflix has created us as content locusts.
We consume it instantly then move on to the next thing to consume
It’s a very brief hit in the culture and then gets pushed back with everything else
We consume it instantly then move on to the next thing to consume
It’s a very brief hit in the culture and then gets pushed back with everything else
Posted on 6/16/22 at 6:56 pm to Lawyered
A recent entertainment podcast was talking about how everyone’s moving away from the one time drop
Said the week to week or 2/week will be the norm and the expect Netflix to follow suit
Said the week to week or 2/week will be the norm and the expect Netflix to follow suit
Posted on 6/16/22 at 6:59 pm to Lawyered
As a viewer I like having the option to binge or take it at my own pace. Week to week watching seems antiquated to me, but unfortunately most streaming services still stick to that model.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 7:06 pm to Jack Ruby
This is why the wife and I won’t binge watch anything anymore. It ruins the experience IMHO.
Even shows with short episodes, like Love Death + Robots, we don’t binge.
Even shows with short episodes, like Love Death + Robots, we don’t binge.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 7:14 pm to Jack Ruby
The newest season of Stranger Things shits all over damn near all of the new Star Wars stuff on Disney+, that’s probably why we have to wait to July 1st to finish Stranger Things on Netflix. Netflix is slowly going to the same model as other platforms.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 7:15 pm to broadhead
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I could see Netflix changing their business model to have a weekly release of original programing. My question would be are people signing up to watch something like stranger things then canceling?
They are probably hesitant to do it for already running series. They will 100% do it in the future for a new series they sink a fortune in to.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 7:21 pm to broadhead
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could see Netflix changing their business model to have a weekly release of original programing. My question would be are people signing up to watch something like stranger things then canceling?
I stuck it out but the weekly release made Halo almost unwatchable. I just waited till it was all over and binged the last 6 episodes. I get what they were doing with world building and they can’t just have Master Chief wrecking shop every episode. Because of the weekly, you saw MC being MC, and then you had to wait a month. Binging, it would have just been 3 more episodes. Then you didn’t see him being MC for another month… or 3 episodes.
I cancelled paramount afterwards. I may bring it back for Yellowstone and next season of Halo, but it’s not enough to keep me.
This post was edited on 6/16/22 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 6/16/22 at 7:31 pm to Jack Ruby
Agreed
Posted on 6/16/22 at 7:34 pm to Jack Ruby
It kills discussion because the superfans will binge the whole season as soon as it drops, and the threads will be up to 40 pages before a normal person has seen the 3rd episode.
I'm encouraged that some people think it's the best season; the first couple episodes looked like a boring rehash with some awful teenage drama piled on.
I'm encouraged that some people think it's the best season; the first couple episodes looked like a boring rehash with some awful teenage drama piled on.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 7:43 pm to Jack Ruby
Stranger Things 4 has been great so far, but I think they could’ve broken it up a little better. Instead of 7 episodes coming in at nearly feature film length each, break it up into, say, 10 slightly shorter episodes.
This post was edited on 6/16/22 at 7:45 pm
Posted on 6/16/22 at 7:50 pm to Jack Ruby
To add another possibly unpopular opinion - I hate that “seasons” are now only 6-8 episodes long.
Everything now just feels like a long movie chopped up into parts. The entire point of television is to be able to take time to flesh out characters and do some world-building. I miss the occasional “filler” episodes that are just plain fun.
Everything now just feels like a long movie chopped up into parts. The entire point of television is to be able to take time to flesh out characters and do some world-building. I miss the occasional “filler” episodes that are just plain fun.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 8:05 pm to xenythx
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I miss the occasional “filler” episodes that are just plain fun.
A lot of people think “The Fly” was the worst episode of “Breaking Bad”.
I love it. Great character development episode.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 8:11 pm to PowerTool
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It kills discussion because the superfans will binge the whole season as soon as it drops, and the threads will be up to 40 pages before a normal person has seen the 3rd episode.
That’s why civilized message boards like TD have spoiler threads and non spoiler threads. I understand some people will binge everything all at once but normal 40+ year olds simply don’t have the time to watch 10+ hours all at once. Don’t get me wrong, I love the release of everything all at once which Netflix started and Amazon Prime tried to do but I also get the other side of the argument.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 8:39 pm to Jack Ruby
Yea its sad that something so shite like Star Wars and Obi Wan are getting more attention. Damn shame..
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