Is Wonder Woman Actually That Good?

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So I ask the relatively more sane M/TV Board. My understanding from friends who have seen it is that it doesn't do anything to break the mold, but it is pretty well executed, enjoyable, and an overall fun movie that is worth seeing, though maybe not in theaters. Chris Pine is apparently quite good as the love interest and Gal Gadot is both gorgeous and decent in her role.

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I would agree with most of that. I would say it's very well executed, paced and worth seeing in theaters. Doesn't really have any major flaws.

it was solid

kind of stupid in many areas

the CGI/fights were meh in many instances

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and an overall fun movie that is worth seeing, though maybe not in theaters

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it's on that level

The Metacritic rating is about right. People are going crazy over it because the DC cinematic universe can finally hang its hat on a good film, but it's pretty standard fare for a superhero film. Nowhere near as good as either of the last two Captain America films, Guardians of the Galaxy, or Ant Man.

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Better than both Iron Man and Captain America? That's saying something.

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hyperbole by OLM

also, GOTG was an "origin story" and blew this thing out of the water

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Better than both Iron Man and Captain America? That's saying something.

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For the time, Iron Man might be a bit better, but Marvel has beaten that format into the ground to where that movie is no longer anywhere near as entertaining as it once was. And yeah, I liked this movie a lot more than I liked Captain America.

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also, GOTG was an "origin story" and blew this thing out of the water

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That crossed my mind, but Guardians isn't exactly an origin story in my mind. It just feels like they immediately got into the Avengers and all these characters have been doing this crap for decades by the point the movie starts. It's just they found each other.

But yes, Guardians is comfortably better than Wonder Woman.

Interesting. I just have major doubts about the DCEU, so I need people like y'all to tell me that this isn't some Zack Snyder turd. I know he didn't direct this, but he helped write and produced it so my shitty movie antennae are up.

ETA: also hilarious that I have a downvote for asking the question.

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But yes, Guardians is comfortably better than Wonder Woman

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Hrrmmm. See I put Cap 1 and 2 on GotG level. So when you say WW is better than Cap 1, that to me is a major endorsement. Irrespective of that, it sounds like it's probably worth seeing.

It was a Marvel movie, but with a DC character.

There was a moment when the color washed out of the film and it felt like a Snyder movie, but honestly, given the context, it WORKED. she was going from the beautiful colors of paradise to the washed out world of mankind. And life gets drained out of you, like the color palette. It turned the stylistic problems of Snyder into an honest to God positive.

I've said in the other thread I don't like the WWI setting, and I don't think the scenes at the Front work due to the issues with World War I, and Wonder Woman not really fitting there. But the rest of the movie works like gangbusters, and the movie really only spends about five minutes on the Front. As soon as it moves to the village, the tonal problem resolves itself.

The best thing about the movie is that the supporting cast works well and each feel like fully realized characters, and they all get their own moment. They also have logical motivations and aren't just magical plot devices (more of a problem with the MCU).

I do think it's getting a pass for its ham-fisted framing device, but whatever. Critics are just happy this doesn't suck, and that a DCU film wasn't a brutal slog. So they are ignoring some of the film's weaker points because A) it doesn't really ruin the film and B) no one wants to spoil the party. It's a fun movie. And we're all better off if there's competition in the superhero genre.