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Is Rocky the greatest original film score ever?

Posted on 7/21/20 at 8:23 pm
Posted by Jack Ruby
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 8:23 pm
I'm talking top to bottom. Rocky only, none of the sequels. Every track used in the film. They're all works of art and have unwaveringly stood the test of time, probably better than any other film score in pop culture.

Some will mention numerous John Williams scores and probably The Godfather, which I believe may be the biggest competition, as well as countless others. But what Rocky did was pure art.

I can't think of anything else so diverse. It invented the "pump up" song then ended the film credits with an f-ing fugue on the level of Vivaldi or Mozart. LINK

There are defiently single tracks on the same level as pieces from Rocky, but in totality I don't think it can be beat.

The YouTube rental preview pretty much features every piece in the film. LINK
This post was edited on 7/21/20 at 8:26 pm
Posted by Amadeo
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 8:34 pm to
"Gonna Fly Now", also known as "Theme from Rocky", was composed by LSU graduate Bill Conti.

...and yet LSU adopts "Eye of the Tiger". from Rocky III as one of it's fight songs.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 8:38 pm to
quote:

Is Rocky the greatest original film score ever?


I'd vote either The Imperial March or Superman Main Theme.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 8:43 pm to
Once Upon a Time In The West by Ennio Morricone is the GOAT original score. The score is so good that Sergio Leone actually changed the original plot of the movie and decided to just film the scenes around Morricone's score.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 8:43 pm to
no
Posted by Bear Is Dead
Monroe
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 8:47 pm to
Rocky or jaws
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 8:52 pm to
quote:

the greatest original film score ever
Let's talk to the film's screenwriter, Joseph Stefano:

"I saw a rough cut, and I thought it was OK.

Then I saw it with the music..."

It's not just a film score, it's another character in the film
Posted by Stranger Tigers
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 9:00 pm to
I go with Freaux on Superman if you are just talking one main score.

Star Wars has to have like 2-4 of the best scores of all time though. Even the prequel disasters had duel of the fates.
Posted by yurintroubl
Dallas, Tx.
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 9:43 pm to
Peter Gabriel's Last Temptation of Christ wins it hands down for me.

Totally different style...but an amazing ensemble of work which was entirely his.


ETA:

2 that haven't been mentioned yet:
Last of the Mohicans
Out of Africa
This post was edited on 7/21/20 at 10:02 pm
Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 9:54 pm to
Nah. Literally anything hanz zimmer does is the best
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 10:30 pm to
Superman is the most iconic... The Race

Once Upon a Time in the West is the most beautiful.
Posted by JBM210
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 10:41 pm to
Rocky is spot on. Don’t let anybody here fool you.
Posted by SOCAL TIGER
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 10:47 pm to
Rocky....FACT
Posted by DaleGribble
Bend, OR
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 10:50 pm to
Black Orpheus would get my vote. It's hard to beat a collaboration between Antonio Carlos Jobim and Vinicius de Moraes.
Posted by Bestbank
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:07 am to
Indiana Jones
Posted by partywiththelombardi
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:19 am to
When you say greatest for me it has to be something I dont want to turn off

Last of the Mohicans score I think trumps most of the original big name scores that usually come to mind for me at least
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 12:47 am
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22714 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 2:44 am to
Mohicans is on the same level. It's basically doing what Morriconne did for Leone films. The final 20 minutes, the score is the main character in the film.

Listening to the whole score, though, there's one or two tracks that aren't that great. That's why I think Rocky is so good. It's as complete as any original score ever.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 3:54 am to
quote:

The final 20 minutes, the score is the main character in the film.


You take that away and it's just an average chase scene.

The music makes it epic.

It might be the best example of how music elevates a movie and activates our emotions.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 6:49 am to
Here's how the American Film Institute ranked them about 15 or so years ago.

25. How the West Was Won (1962) - Alfred Newman, Ken Darby
24. On Golden Pond (1981) - Dave Grusin
23. The Mission (1986) - Ennio Morricone
22. On the Waterfront (1954) - Elmer Bernstein
21. Ben-Hur (1959) - Miklos Rozsa
20. The Pink Panther (1964) - Henry Mancini
19. A Streetcar Named Desire (1951) - Alex North
18. Planet of the Apes (1968) - Jerry Goldsmith
17. To Kill a Mockingbird (1962) - Elmer Bernstein
16. Sunset Boulevard (1950) - Franz Waxman
15. Out of Africa (1985) - John Barry
14. E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982) - John Williams
13. King Kong (1933) - Max Steiner
12. Vertigo (1958) - Bernard Herrmann
11. The Adventures of Robin Hood (1938) - Erich Wolfgang Korngold
10. High Noon (1952) - Dimitri Tiomkin
9. Chinatown (1974) - Jerry Goldsmith
8. The Magnificent Seven (1960) - Elmer Bernstein
7. Laura (1944) - David Raksin
6. Jaws (1975) - John Williams
5. The Godfather (1972) - Nino Rota
4. Psycho (1960) - Bernard Herrmann
3. Lawrence of Arabia (1962) - Maurice Jarre
2. Gone With the Wind (1939) - Max Steiner
1. Star Wars (1977) - John Williams
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39728 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 6:58 am to
You people don't even know how to Conan.... easily the best score ever written. If you disagree to hell with you... I will hear the lamentations of your women...
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