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re: Is Les Miserables the GOAT musical?

Posted on 11/22/16 at 12:46 am to
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/22/16 at 12:46 am to
I respectfully disagree. Les Mes was an acquired taste for me. I fell in love with Phantom almost instantly.

The musical score and songs are of a far superior quality. Almost every song is perfect. Les Mes has some snoozers.

This post was edited on 11/22/16 at 12:48 am
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
68037 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 1:49 am to
quote:

might even take Past the Point of No Return over it as well.


Easily
Posted by BRUNDLEFLY
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 11/22/16 at 7:25 am to
I really enjoyed the technique they used on the 2012 adaptation (less theatrical, more raw) but sweet Jesus... Russell Crowe was so terrible when singing.
Posted by Breesus
Unplug
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 11/22/16 at 7:29 am to
quote:

sweet Jesus... Russell Crowe was so terrible when singing.


He's like that kid on the little league baseball team that plays out field and never gets a hit. You just tell him good job, bud. You tried your best and give him a snowcone after that game so he feels involved.

Whats sad is I can never ever hear this line again:

quote:

Now prisoner 24601
Your time is up
And your parole's begun
You know what that means.


Without hearing it in Crowes voice.

Jackman and Hathaway are both classically trained singers. Crowe not so much.
This post was edited on 11/22/16 at 7:30 am
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33050 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 7:37 am to
After phantom of course, I would have to say Jersey Boys is the best one I've seen. It is a really good show that you don't hear about as much.

I have always wanted to see Hairspray, but have never seen it touring anywhere around us.

Book of Mormon is great, but I don't think it's in the discussion of GoAT.

Phantom has the music, settings, costumes, cast. It's without question the GOAT.
Posted by Decker
Member since Nov 2015
3810 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 8:11 am to
Where's the closest Sonic so we can settle this?
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/22/16 at 8:28 am to
quote:

The Music of the Night is a classic, but in totality, I think Les Mis has Phantom beat


If you want to argue les miz is a better story or more impressive production than phantom that's fine.

One thing that can't be argued is the soundtrack and score. Phantom is by far the best and it's not close.
Posted by Decker
Member since Nov 2015
3810 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 8:35 am to
See above comment
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
15877 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 8:43 am to
Wicked and Phantom of the Opera are my two most favorite musicals of the past 20 years or so. I still love the classics like West Side Story and The King and I. Pretty much anything composed by Sondheim is great as well.
Posted by smash williams
San Diego
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 11/22/16 at 8:50 am to
I'm not sure about live theatre but I love The Sound of Music.
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
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Posted on 11/22/16 at 8:52 am to
Phantom of the Opera
Rent
Sweeney Todd
Little Shop of Horrors
Jesus Christ Superstar
West Side Story
Grease
The Producers

In my opinion, I enjoy all of these more than Les Mis
This post was edited on 11/22/16 at 8:52 am
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/22/16 at 9:06 am to
My mom loves Les Miz, but I'm not a huge fan of the Broadway "operas". It is a great example of the era it came from (the 80s), and it stands alongside Phantom of the best of its era or at least the best representation (and ugh... Cats). But let's be hones, the 1980s was a dismal period for Broadway and being the best musical of the 80s is damning with faint praise.

The problem with Les Miz is that while it is a dramatic spectacle, its songbook doesn't stick with you for weeks and even years. I can sing pretty much every song from West Side Story or Music Man right now. Or Man of La Mancha or South Pacific. They have enduring songbooks and have almost been woven into the fabric if American life.

But the greatest musical ever is Wizard of Oz, and I don't think it's all that close (though I'll entertain arguments for Singin' in the Rain, Sound of Music, or West Side Story for best movie musical). It's iconic.
This post was edited on 11/22/16 at 9:07 am
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104024 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 9:07 am to
quote:

The problem with Les Miz is that while it is a dramatic spectacle, its songbook doesn't stick with you for weeks and even years.


Guess I'm weird... it's the only one that has stuck with me.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87980 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 9:10 am to
quote:

But the greatest musical ever is Wizard of Oz
Do you mean Wicked?
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 9:19 am to
No, I meant the Wizard of Oz. The Wizard of Oz is so great, it's spawned two highly successful variations of the same play (The Wiz and Wicked).

Wicked is great, though. Defying Gravity is the bomb.
Posted by Froman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
38906 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 9:29 am to
quote:

I can't believe that some swingin' dick hasn't come in here and proclaimed Hamilton the greatest thing ever.


It's certainly up there. I agree with OP that Les Mis is the greatest of all time, though.
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
24834 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 9:33 am to
The worst is when he says "Five years for what you did! The rest because you tried to run!" My god.

LINK

41 second mark
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 11/22/16 at 10:28 am to
quote:

Guess I'm weird... it's the only one that has stuck with me.


Me too, though I suppose it could be that I was so moved by the story that the entire production stuck with me.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
68037 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 11:05 am to
quote:

Whats sad is I can never ever hear this line again:

quote:
Now prisoner 24601
Your time is up
And your parole's begun
You know what that means.


Without hearing it in Crowes voice.


bruh i thought i was the only one. the song will randomly pop in my head with Crowe's shitty voice. forever ruined
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
38427 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 11:22 am to
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