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re: Is Christian bale a better actor than Daniel day lewis?

Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:29 pm to
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:29 pm to
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If you wanna compare someone to DDL, make it Joaquin Phoenix, or Tom Hardy.


Yeah, I tend to come down here - Bale is good at what he does, maybe better than good, but I think that Phoenix and Hardy have more skill at the craft. Obviously, there are roles that Bale would be better at, and roles that Phoenix or Hardy would be better at.

Now - another thing, we're talking about apples to oranges - DDL is a low volume, script selective "auteur" actor who is now in his 60s. (A more apt comparison to DDL would be Brando, I would think - a different generation, of course and Brando was more likely to grab a quick paycheck, but the selectiveness, eccentricity, bordering on insanity, lower volume and reclusiveness are common traits here.)

Hardy, Bale and, to a lesser degree, Phoenix, are well regarded guys who can do lead or support roles, but are typically cast in high budget films to pay the rent and lower budget films to chase awards (and to satisfy their artistic urges), born in the mid/late 1970s.


This post was edited on 4/16/18 at 1:35 pm
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35478 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 2:18 pm to
Yeah Christian Bale goes to extremes but so does DDL...they're both extreme method actors.

For example, DDL:

– Wearing a top hat and cape at all times around New York City for the two months leading up to The Age of Innocence shoot.

– Refusing to wear a warmer coat on the set of Gangs of New York because it was not of the period. This lead to Day-Lewis contracting pneumonia. He still refused the coat, and also refused any kind of modern treatment.

– Committed to really getting into the mindset of the severely paralysed Christy Brown for My Left Foot, Day-Lewis never left his wheelchair during filming, necessitating the crew carrying him and the heavy chair everywhere on set.

– Learned to live solely off the land before and during the filming of Last of the Mohicans, going as far as refusing to eat anything he hadn’t hunted and killed himself.

– Became fluent in Czechoslovakian to play a Czech surgeon in The Unbearable Lightness of Being. It was during this shoot that he first acquired his lifelong habit of never breaking character during a shoot.
Posted by Tigerbait337
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2008
20535 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 2:45 pm to
Daniel Day Lewis is over rated
Posted by Keep Stirring
Member since Sep 2016
2604 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 2:52 pm to
Having not yet watched Phantom Thread, my answer is Javier Bardem in No Country for Old Men
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32482 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 2:53 pm to
Michael Keaton is a better actor than Bale.


More range, and definitely a better Batman.
Posted by EyeTwentyNole
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 3:07 pm to
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Comparing anyone to DDL is blasphemy around here, he is extremely overrated on the Movie/TV Board.


I mean you realize DDL isn't some bum that the M/TV Board discovered and gushes over for no reason. He's widely regarded by his peers as the greatest living actor and one of the greatest of all time.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16484 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 3:27 pm to
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I mean you realize DDL isn't some bum that the M/TV Board discovered and gushes over for no reason. He's widely regarded by his peers as the greatest living actor and one of the greatest of all time.


Cool, he is still overrated by many on this board

Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 3:40 pm to
well, i'll tell ya one thing. DDL couldn't play batman.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
16035 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 3:42 pm to
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Michael Keaton is a better actor than Bale.
debatable
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definitely a better Batman.
I agree actually
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More range
hell no
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52787 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 3:43 pm to
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Cool, he is still overrated by many on this board




I think he overacts occasionally, but he is still one of the greatest actors ever.

How many times have you watched his films and thought "he plays the same character over and over". ZERO.

He is Hawkeye
He is Bill the Butcher
He is Lincoln
He is Daniel Plainview

Saying he is over rated is simply being a contrarian.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24540 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 3:46 pm to
Bale is one of the greatest of the last 20 years, but DDL is an alltime legend. The answer is no but with no disrespect to Bale's talents
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16484 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 3:54 pm to
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How many times have you watched his films and thought "he plays the same character over and over". ZERO


When I watched Gangs of New York and There Will Be Blood, I thought Bill the Butcher and Daniel Plainview were pretty much the same character.

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Saying he is over rated is simply being a contrarian


It's not contrarian if it's true, and he is overrated by many on this board, just read some threads about him. I'm not saying he isn't a great actor, I just don't elevate him to untouchable status like many on here
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25192 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 4:15 pm to
It depends on the role and the director.

How would Daniel Day Lewis do playing Batman?

For the first movie it would have been iconic. But he'd have fought tooth and nail to avoid doing a second and third movie.

Daniel Day Lewis is the better actor. Christian Bale is the more versatile actor.
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32953 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 4:42 pm to
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Comparing anyone to DDL is blasphemy around here, he is extremely overrated on the Movie/TV Board.


This. Great actor, but he has a cult like following on this board. I love Bale and think he’s a great actor. They are right there in the conversation together as far as I’m concerned. But it’s splitting hairs.
Posted by Big_Slim
Mogadishu
Member since Apr 2016
3977 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 4:55 pm to
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Refusing to wear a warmer coat on the set of Gangs of New York because it was not of the period. This lead to Day-Lewis contracting pneumonia. He still refused the coat, and also refused any kind of modern treatment.



I mean that's just retarded. I think the whole method acting thing is kind of silly in general which is why Robert Downey Jr. making fun of it in Tropic Thunder establishes him as the clear number 1.
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13531 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 4:57 pm to
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mean you realize DDL isn't some bum that the M/TV Board discovered and gushes over for no reason. He's widely regarded by his peers as the greatest living actor and one of the greatest of all time.


This. He isn’t just a movie board favorite like JGL
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35478 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 5:42 pm to
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I mean that's just retarded. I think the whole method acting thing is kind of silly in general which is why Robert Downey Jr. making fun of it in Tropic Thunder establishes him as the clear number 1.



This reminds me of that old Dustin Hoffman/Lawrence Olivier story.

Dustin Hoffman has long been known as one of method acting’s most earnest exponents. A showbiz story involves his collaboration with Laurence Olivier on the 1976 film Marathon Man.

Upon being asked by his co-star how a previous scene had gone, one in which Hoffmann’s character had supposedly stayed up for three days, Hoffmann admitted that he too had not slept for 72 hours to achieve emotional verisimilitude.

“My dear boy,” replied Olivier smoothly, “why don’t you just try acting?”
Posted by Big_Slim
Mogadishu
Member since Apr 2016
3977 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 5:54 pm to
that's pretty good, definitely stealing that one. It's just ridiculous

"No dude, you don't understand, Dicaprio actually slept inside of a bear for the Revenant, you gotta see it!"
Posted by The Midnight Rider
Where the River Empties
Member since May 2015
1576 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 6:16 pm to
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he had an all-time performance as Patrick Bateman, but none of his other roles have really blown me away. he's a good actor though

:lol:

The Fighter?!?!?!
Posted by shamrock
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
3621 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 6:37 pm to
No
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