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Posted on 5/1/18 at 10:13 pm to AustinDawg
quote:yes
What did Cap say at the end, was it "oh god?"
quote:Odd question. But obviously they were hiding in Europe.
2) How did Cap and Team end up in Scotland so quickly?
Was it basically that they were trying to track down Scarlet Witch since she had been "out of contact" for too long?
quote:I didn’t pick up the exact line. But he somehow created his own Bifröst through him.
3) Heimdall's hero moment was really small. But he said something like, "one last channel of dark energy". What's that a reference to? Was his ability to see and open the Bifrost linked to dark energy?
quote:I don’t think time is reset. Red skull was alive after being “destroyed”. We may get more help from him and CM.
4) So clearly there's going to be a reset of some sort. How far back do we think this reset will go?
Posted on 5/1/18 at 10:14 pm to ell_13
quote:
Why are you picking on that one movie?
Uhhh because GOtG happened to be on TV tonight and I noticed the entire premise of the movie was to not let the Power Stone A) get into the wrong hands; and B) not let Xandar get destroyed.
In Infinity Wars, was Wakanda destroyed? In Age of Ultron, was Earth destroyed? The Avengers or Spider-Man HC, was NYC destroyed? No. Was Xandar destroyed? We don't know. Half the population of the universe? Yes.
So we are in agreeance....
Posted on 5/1/18 at 10:14 pm to Fusaichi Pegasus
Civil war and Thor. Not BP.
Posted on 5/1/18 at 10:15 pm to Fusaichi Pegasus
BP: No. Civil War and Ragnarok though, in one way or another yes. This movie spoils those if you haven’t seen them and you will be confused on why certain characters are where they are.
Posted on 5/1/18 at 10:15 pm to Darkknight
You’re assuming Xandar was destroyed. And yes, the purpose of all of those films is now moot.
Posted on 5/1/18 at 10:17 pm to AustinDawg
quote:
3) Heimdall's hero moment was really small. But he said something like, "one last channel of dark energy". What's that a reference to? Was his ability to see and open the Bifrost linked to dark energy?
I think it was a throw back to the first avengers, Loki made a comment about how Odin was able to get Thor back to earth
Posted on 5/1/18 at 10:18 pm to Fusaichi Pegasus
quote:I didn't see Black Panther, don't think I missed anything major.
Do need I to watch BP, civil war and thor ragnarok first bf watching this?
Civil War and Ragnarok, in that viewing order, are necessities. Watch Ragnarok immediately before this, for best effect.
Posted on 5/1/18 at 10:19 pm to Scoob
All you really need to see regarding BP is in the credit scene after civil war. Seriously.
Posted on 5/1/18 at 10:27 pm to BilJ
quote:Loki commented that Odin must have expended a lot of Dark Energy to send Thor back.
quote:
3) Heimdall's hero moment was really small. But he said something like, "one last channel of dark energy". What's that a reference to? Was his ability to see and open the Bifrost linked to dark energy?
I think it was a throw back to the first avengers, Loki made a comment about how Odin was able to get Thor back to earth
Heimdall appealed to his forefathers or all-fathers to grant him the ability to do this. He'd been the gatekeeper, he knew "how" it worked, he needed the means to do it.
Heimdall also could see every soul in the cosmos, and watch their plight. Wonder if there was some reason he sent Banner (not Thor) back to Earth. Yes, that would have put Thor even further away from the Forge (and not meet with the Guardians), but you'd figure that Thor was about to die then anyway. He was left floating in space. Had Thanos given a thought to Thor's durability, he could have ended him with the Power Stone.
Hmmm, Thanos did spare Thor in return for Loki giving up the Space Stone/Tessaract. Did Loki's attempt on his life afterward void that agreement, or just cost Loki his life?
Thanos has spared 3 people in return for Stones, thus far, in my count.
Posted on 5/1/18 at 10:33 pm to Fusaichi Pegasus
quote:
Do need I to watch BP, civil war and thor ragnarok first bf watching this?
Yes.
Posted on 5/1/18 at 10:44 pm to ell_13
quote:I think this is a valid point (obviously, I don't know what I missed by not seeing BP yet).
All you really need to see regarding BP is in the credit scene after civil war. Seriously.
Civil War introduced BP, and both it and AoU touched on it being a very advanced civilization. They brought Bucky there at the end of Civil War.
As for supporting characters from that film- you have to understand, IW is so big that Captain America and Black Widow are supporting characters here. BW has been a big role in 5 movies so far, Cap's been headline in 5. Someone who's limited to just 1 film isn't going to be that important.
I quickly figured out BP's sister was "smart" just the way they used her. Pretty apparent the other warlord-looking dude was someone who could fight, but wasn't real interested in BP's politics or appeal, but would stand beside his people if needed, just based on the one line they shared with him.
Posted on 5/1/18 at 10:46 pm to Paco_taco
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I’m thinking Scott gets trapped in the quantum reallm. The post credit scene will show them as he escapes with Janet only to discover that hank and hope have turned to dust with half the world.
Scott and Hope are in the quantum realm. They save Janet. When they make it back Janet goes to embrace Hank but right as she puts her arms around him he gives a pained cough and starts to disintegrate. She screams in horror turning around only to see the same happening to Hope and Scott's crew. Scott realizing what's going on races home and finds Paxon's squad car still running w/the door open in the driveway. He bursts into the house only to find and inconsolable Paxon crouched over two dark patches on the floor. Next to one of the patches is the ugly stuffed animal Scott gave Cassie for her birthday.
fade to black, credits roll
This post was edited on 5/1/18 at 10:49 pm
Posted on 5/1/18 at 10:51 pm to Scoob
I didn’t see BP. Definitely was not a requirement. Civil War introduced him. He’s the leader. They obviously have advanced tech. The credits scene establishes that Bucky is being held there. Whatever BP’s plot is means nothing to IW.
I’d also say that Spider-Man Homecoming isn’t needed either. Civil war is critical for many reasons. Cap vs Stark, the accords, Rhodes being hurt, vision and max...
Thor establishes where Hulk goes, Loki’s return and that dynamic, Thor needing a new weapon, Odin’s fate.
I’d also say that Spider-Man Homecoming isn’t needed either. Civil war is critical for many reasons. Cap vs Stark, the accords, Rhodes being hurt, vision and max...
Thor establishes where Hulk goes, Loki’s return and that dynamic, Thor needing a new weapon, Odin’s fate.
This post was edited on 5/1/18 at 10:55 pm
Posted on 5/1/18 at 10:52 pm to Dr RC
quote:
Dr RC
That's dark bruh.
Posted on 5/1/18 at 10:56 pm to ell_13
quote:There's upcoming Dr Strange movies, right?
4) So clearly there's going to be a reset of some sort. How far back do we think this reset will go?
I don’t think time is reset. Red skull was alive after being “destroyed”. We may get more help from him and CM.
I say this in connection to my earlier question on whether Thanos' act went across dimensions, and affected the Dark Dimension (Dormammu's dimension).
Theoretically, Thanos may have snapped Dormammu out (at least temporarily), which would leave that realm to ... Clea.
Clea is Dormammu's niece, and becomes Strange's woman in the comics.
Strange being gone would leave the door open, and Clea, being sympathetic to Strange's cause, could come in- and not wreck shite. But rather, be a much-needed magical ally in correcting this mess.
And then tie things in nicely with the next Dr Strange movie... just sayin
Posted on 5/1/18 at 10:59 pm to Scoob
That may be too much to bring into a story that’s already so full and is about to get another hero in CM. Her whereabouts at the end of her movie will probably give us a clue about what she’s capable of doing and why she’s been MIA thus far.
Posted on 5/1/18 at 10:59 pm to Freauxzen
quote:
That's dark bruh.
I'm bringing back the late 70s - mid 80s kids flicks that gave no fricks.
This post was edited on 5/1/18 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 5/1/18 at 11:20 pm to ell_13
quote:I don't know about that, I think it could set up nicely, and be both a kickstart to the next Dr Strange film, and just a small part of IW pt2 (or whatever).
That may be too much to bring into a story that’s already so full and is about to get another hero in CM
We've established Strange as a powerhouse in IW, and he's now gone. Scarlet Witch is too, and she's not even the same type of powers. I think it's asking a bit much of Wong to represent the Mystic Arts.
I also think Dormammu and the Dark Dimension is probably the second biggest threat to existence behind Thanos.
I definitely could see Wong unable to prevent the intrusion from the Dark Dimension, he's not ready or strong enough. But it's Clea coming through, not Dormammu, and she's coming to find out what has thrown the multiverse into chaos (it originated in our dimension). Gives a little "I come in peace" message, saying respects to Strange, asks for him. Maybe even thinks he did it somehow. Learns of his fate and what happened; and decides that she respects Strange so much that she will help restore things. This will include restoring Dormammu, so she has to go prepare for that, can't hang around for the fight against Thanos... but leaves a message for Strange to "call her" when he comes back.
This can be done with minimal impact to the rest of the story, it simply adds to Strange's role in IW. But it would set the next Strange movie up.
Posted on 5/1/18 at 11:30 pm to Scoob
What....in....the....frick
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