re: Incredibles 2 RT Score Watch - 94%. Now SPOILERS

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Is the family supergroup banding together as a family to save humanity aspect thrown out in favor of "girl power," or not?

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No, it's not. It really wasn't about "girl power" at all, really.

Yeah, Elastigirl got to be more of the focal point for the action scenes. It paralleled nicely with Mr. Incredible being the point man in the first movie's action scenes.

But just like the first movie, the 3rd act was all about the family unit being what makes them The Incredibles.

And it was awesome.

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The film if anything seems to talk about the importance of fathers, something the SJWs avoid like the plague.

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This. Sure, there were the requisite pratfalls by Mr. Incredible while feeling out his role as "mr. mom," but if anything, he acquitted himself with flying colors AND came back to help kick arse at the end.

Basically sent the message that dads can and should be both nurturers and protectors.

The melts would have been hilarious

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part of me really wishes that they would have let elastigirl do all the superhero shite and let mr. incredible just stay at home with the kids the entire movie.

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Movie would have been garbage. My daughters would have been so disappointed.

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they instead essentially opted for a feminist remake of the first movie

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You're an idiot.

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Mr. Incredible is hardly featured at all

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You're a bigger idiot.

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He also can’t hack it as a dufus stay-at-home dad who is jealous of his successful and empowered wife.

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Annnndddd, you didn't watch the movie. It's about him succeeding as a stay at home dad. Just about every 90s sitcom did this cliche once. Why wasn't it a problem for everyone then?

There really weren't identity politics in this movie at all. You just fabricated one out of thin air.

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but they instead essentially opted for a feminist remake of the first movie.

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bullshite

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hardly featured at all

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Wrong

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he “makes too much of a mess”.

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Newsflash, he DOES!

Think about it, if you were trying to do what Wyn was doing (get the supers back and legal), would you really want to lead with the guy that started the whole anti-super movement in the first place by having him do the same mass destruction shite?

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dufus stay-at-home dad

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what movie did you watch?

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jealous of his successful and empowered wife.

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at first, and so would any other husband/father thrust into the situation. It was fleeting,

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Dash has barely any influence on the film other than being bad at math and losing the baby

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In my best Edna voice: Good God!

I don't agree with asurob1 on a hell of a lot, but he's right about people that are bitching about these alleged plot points.

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Perhaps I’m so embittered by Hollywood’s current streak of pointless sequels with thin plots and liberal agendas that I was blinded to the real message of this particular film

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That's sad.

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you have to admit the plot is the EXACT SAME as 14 years ago, instead with females leading the way.

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It's a superhero movie. Every plot for every single one will be the same: good guys fight bad guys. And no. It wasn't exact. The motives were different, the dynamics were different, the issues faced were different. But other than that, SPOT ON!!!

Took my son (15) to see it yesterday. We both loved it.
Good story, very funny, and entertaining as hell. Graphics were amazing. No idea how they make water look so real. I loved the first Incredibles a lot too. Seen it many, many times.

8/10

Golf with my son and Incredibles 2. Was a good Father's Day weekend.

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It’s same hero vs very similar villain.

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Wait. What hypocrisy is this? You were upset that the hero was female now you're saying it's the same just to suit your narrative?

And the villains were completely different. Completely, with this one being worse. But that was a given. Syndrome was one of the best villains of all time for any superhero movie.

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First movie - person who allegedly appreciates outcast superheroes hires them with malicious intentions.

Second movie - person who allegedly appreciates outcast superheroes hires them with *PLOT TWIST* good intentions that are thwarted by his MUCH SMARTER sister who is able to take advantage of her brother’s good-natured idiocy.

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They weren't hired in the second movie. The guy who "hired" them wasn't the bag guy. They weren't trying to kill off supers one by one. And their goal wasn't to become superheros themselves.

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Even if I’m wrong

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Which you are.

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it’s a crap plot

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That, you can argue because it's filled with family dynamic cliches: the teenage girl struggling with identity and relationships, the dad struggling with raising kids on his own. But those are all B plots. The Incredibles will always be about working together as a family. That's their MO. Just like Batman will always have to try to overcome his demons. Thor will always have family drama. Hulk will always be fighting with himself. This list goes on.

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it’s also Hollywood coming after your wallet with yet another pointless remake

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Jesus fricking Christ.

I don't understand a single sentiment of it being SJW -

First off, Mr. Incredible knuckles down and gets the job done at home. It wasn't easy but he was able to do it. If anything, it was 20 years too late and has been done too many times.

Elastagirl is the obvious choice for the initial mission, for reasons they point out. Its not a gender thing - its a power-set and "history" thing. Mr. I has a history of destroying a ton of stuff while stopping the bad guy. Makes perfect sense. Any other way of looking at it is just looking for smething to @#$@ about.

I'll say it again - the only real SJW conversation was initiated and had the point of view of the main villain. Tell me again how that's supposed to try to get people to support that SJW point of view? By linking it with the bad guy?