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If I Space Superhero Movies To My Own Liking I Get More Out Of Them; Watched Ragnarök
Posted on 10/12/20 at 6:07 am
Posted on 10/12/20 at 6:07 am
I get burned out on superhero movies, there’s so many of them. So I space them out on my own time. Otherwise I don’t really enjoy them.
It’s like banana pudding. I really like banana pudding but if I eat banana pudding every other night week after week month after month year after year I’m going to not like banana pudding. But if I eat banana pudding once a month or once every couple weeks I always love and savor banana pudding.
I watched Thor Ragnarök for the first time this Saturday. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Goldblum as Grandmaster, that role seemed to be made for him it was such a perfect match of character and actor. Blanchett is an incredible actress yet I initially had a hard time envisioning her as a supervillain. But she nailed it. I was aroused by her dark eye shadow and hair. Hiddleston as Loki is always quality. What a great character.
Dialogue and story were very good. They mixed it up and threaded the needle between pushing storylines without going silly stupid and insulting the fans. Sad and crazy that Asgard is no more but shite happens. I enjoyed Odin’s last moment with his sons and I’m glad he was in such a setting, in Norway rather than a NYC alleyway.
I felt the inclusion of Strange was well done, seemed organic and not forced.
I might get around to Infinity War and End Game one day, maybe next year then End Game in 2022.
It’s like banana pudding. I really like banana pudding but if I eat banana pudding every other night week after week month after month year after year I’m going to not like banana pudding. But if I eat banana pudding once a month or once every couple weeks I always love and savor banana pudding.
I watched Thor Ragnarök for the first time this Saturday. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Goldblum as Grandmaster, that role seemed to be made for him it was such a perfect match of character and actor. Blanchett is an incredible actress yet I initially had a hard time envisioning her as a supervillain. But she nailed it. I was aroused by her dark eye shadow and hair. Hiddleston as Loki is always quality. What a great character.
Dialogue and story were very good. They mixed it up and threaded the needle between pushing storylines without going silly stupid and insulting the fans. Sad and crazy that Asgard is no more but shite happens. I enjoyed Odin’s last moment with his sons and I’m glad he was in such a setting, in Norway rather than a NYC alleyway.
I felt the inclusion of Strange was well done, seemed organic and not forced.
I might get around to Infinity War and End Game one day, maybe next year then End Game in 2022.
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Posted on 10/12/20 at 7:46 am to LuckyTiger
I am in the minority, I know, but I thought Ragnarok was pretty meh. It was okay in spots, and the rock dude was pretty hilarious, but all in all I remember thinking they went all in on trying to be Guardians of the Galaxy instead of trying to actually be funny.
There were some other things that bothered me about it, but I don't remember them all. But I remember being pretty disappointed when I watched it.
Disclaimer: I also borderline hated the first Thor movie, and have not watched the sequel due to that, so I don't know if that has anything to do with it.
There were some other things that bothered me about it, but I don't remember them all. But I remember being pretty disappointed when I watched it.
Disclaimer: I also borderline hated the first Thor movie, and have not watched the sequel due to that, so I don't know if that has anything to do with it.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:18 am to LuckyTiger
quote:Best of the MCU movies.
I watched Thor Ragnarök for the first time this Saturday. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:43 am to King George
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Best of the MCU movies.
I consider it up there with Iron Man and GotG as the best non-Avengers movies.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 10:39 am to CocomoLSU
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I am in the minority, I know, but I thought Ragnarok was pretty meh. It was okay in spots, and the rock dude was pretty hilarious, but all in all I remember thinking they went all in on trying to be Guardians of the Galaxy instead of trying to actually be funny.
There were some other things that bothered me about it, but I don't remember them all. But I remember being pretty disappointed when I watched it.
You and I are in the minority, but I thought it was okay. Good movie, but terrible Thor movie. Turning Thor into a one-liner character was tonally wrong. It's like they saw the response RDJ as Iron Man and GotG got and thought, "Let's do that!" Didn't work. (I know one of the fanboys is going to be along shortly telling us all how Jack Kirby's run of Thor in the comics was full of humor. The humor was largely based on Thor's archaic and overly formal style of speech. He wasn't in a Hope and Crosby Road picture.)
Secondly, the CGI might as well have been done by Hanna-Barbera studios. Comically (SWIDT?) bad.
On the plus side, it does have one of the most bad-arse scenes in any comic movie. When he makes his appearance to Led Zeppelin's "Immigrant Song", I don't care who you are, you want to run to the gym and start pumping iron.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 10:40 am to CocomoLSU
If you hated the first Thor, you're going to despise the second Thor movie. 
Posted on 10/12/20 at 11:12 am to LuckyTiger
Posted on 10/12/20 at 11:59 am to UnluckyTiger
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If you hated the first Thor, you're going to despise the second Thor movie.
That's why I never watched it.
I only watched Ragnarok because ALL I HEARD was about how awesome it was and how it was different from the previous Thor movies. So I gave it a shot. And I enjoyed it well enough I guess, but just didn't like it. Like I said, it felt like they were trying way too hard to be funny instead of just injecting natural comedy into it, if that makes sense.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 1:11 pm to CocomoLSU
I liked the first one and really enjoyed Ragnarok but hated the second one. I could only imagine how much someone may hate it that didn’t enjoy the other two
Watch it!
Watch it!
Posted on 10/12/20 at 1:21 pm to CocomoLSU
Thor movies should take a note from vikings
Posted on 10/12/20 at 2:23 pm to SoFla Tideroller
My problem with ragnorak is that it simultaneously powered up Thor but made a mockery of him at the same time.
He’s the biggest dick in terms of power in the Marvel universe, let him be that.
He’s the biggest dick in terms of power in the Marvel universe, let him be that.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 2:35 pm to TheeRealCarolina
Yeah, I didn't even mention the movie making him squeal like a 10 year old girl. Completely against the make-up of the character.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 3:39 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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You and I are in the minority, but I thought it was okay. Good movie, but terrible Thor movie. Turning Thor into a one-liner character was tonally wrong.
the character they built for 2 movies was extremely weak and had no substance. the 3rd movie where they changes the character made almost a billion dollars. So it doesnt seem like they made the wrong move. quote:it made almost a billion dollars....... Because YOU didnt like it doesnt mean it was wrong. It was well liked by 98% of the people that saw it. Just because you dont like it doesnt mean they did something wrong. Get of your high horse.
It's like they saw the response RDJ as Iron Man and GotG got and thought, "Let's do that!" Didn't work.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 3:42 pm to CocomoLSU
quote:when seen in the theaters there was no "trying to be funny" It was funny. Now, 3 years later, and all you have heard is how good it is.... I can see how you think it is try hard. But put yourself in shoes 3 years ago coming off of Thor 1 and 2 then you see it.... Can you see how it would be so well liked?
I only watched Ragnarok because ALL I HEARD was about how awesome it was and how it was different from the previous Thor movies. So I gave it a shot. And I enjoyed it well enough I guess, but just didn't like it. Like I said, it felt like they were trying way too hard to be funny instead of just injecting natural comedy into it, if that makes sense.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 3:44 pm to TheeRealCarolina
quote:it did that..... a immensely powerful, douchey dick that is kind of a dimwit sometimes.
He’s the biggest dick in terms of power in the Marvel universe, let him be that.
If you want to alk about doing a character injustice, lets talk Fat Thor. If they wanted to do Fat Thor, he should have turned back into normal Thor when he had the lightning struck him with stormbreaker and mjolnir
This post was edited on 10/12/20 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 10/12/20 at 4:02 pm to CarRamrod
I actually kinda liked the idea of fat thor. That was one of the most effective and believable portrayals of depression I’d ever seen in a movie outside of maybe Spiderman: Into the Spiderverse’s Peter Parker in sweatpants
Maybe I just liked it because I saw the movie right around the time my divorce was finalized and I was deeply deeply depressed and handling it about as well as Thor did. I’m glad he didn’t instantly get back in shape because that is extremely difficult and takes lots of time, patience, work, a complete lifestyle change, and setbacks. He’ll be back in shape for the next movie since there’s been adequate time for him to do so off screen.
Maybe I just liked it because I saw the movie right around the time my divorce was finalized and I was deeply deeply depressed and handling it about as well as Thor did. I’m glad he didn’t instantly get back in shape because that is extremely difficult and takes lots of time, patience, work, a complete lifestyle change, and setbacks. He’ll be back in shape for the next movie since there’s been adequate time for him to do so off screen.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 4:23 pm to kingbob
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I actually kinda liked the idea of fat thor. That was one of the most effective and believable portrayals of depression I’d ever seen in a movie outside of maybe Spiderman: Into the Spiderverse’s Peter Parker in sweatpants
Maybe I just liked it because I saw the movie right around the time my divorce was finalized and I was deeply deeply depressed and handling it about as well as Thor did. I’m glad he didn’t instantly get back in shape because that is extremely difficult and takes lots of time, patience, work, a complete lifestyle change, and setbacks. He’ll be back in shape for the next movie since there’s been adequate time for him to do so off screen.
Huh...honestly I hated Fat Thor!
Just thought it ignored who he'd become as a character up to that point. YouTuber, Critical Drinker, did an episode where he "fixed" Fat Thor back in April. Worth the 15 minutes or so if you're interested in a different take. LINK
Posted on 10/12/20 at 4:47 pm to GeauxTigerTM
I like his concept for Thor as it definitely fits his character arc. I certainly like the end, that Valkyrie is just keeping the people safe while Thor searches for a new homeland would have been a better ending than what we got.
However, Thor with the Guardians is such a fun combo that I’m really looking forward to their next movie together.
I just feel like Fat Thor is a pretty believable response to losing your home, everything and everyone you care about, watching most of them get slaughtered right in front of you, going on a vengeful revenge rampage, failing again as 1/2 the universe is obliterated, getting your petty revenge only to find out it does nothing to heal your pain or bring any sense of justice, etc. I wouldn’t be shocked if Thor started out trying to be helpful and micromanaging at first, but had trouble holding things together and eventually just gave up on trying as the people seemed to do better without his help. Without a home, family, love, or purpose, a devolution into lethargy and gluttony to fill the hole and drown out his inner pain seems, well, completely believable. I also loved how he discovered he was still worthy. That’s a big deal with people suffering from depression. You feel like a burden to others, and that effort is too risky. You feel afraid to put yourself out there and fail, yet even more afraid that you’ll succeed, because you don’t deserve success. You’re not worthy of it. So that moment when he realized he was always worthy showed him that you can always come back. There is no depths which you can sink to from whence you cannot redeem yourself and return. That’s a very Christian concept of seeking forgiveness from both others and yourself so you can wipe the slate clean and start putting your life back together again. Maybe I just liked the Big Lebowski gag, I don’t know.
However, Thor with the Guardians is such a fun combo that I’m really looking forward to their next movie together.
I just feel like Fat Thor is a pretty believable response to losing your home, everything and everyone you care about, watching most of them get slaughtered right in front of you, going on a vengeful revenge rampage, failing again as 1/2 the universe is obliterated, getting your petty revenge only to find out it does nothing to heal your pain or bring any sense of justice, etc. I wouldn’t be shocked if Thor started out trying to be helpful and micromanaging at first, but had trouble holding things together and eventually just gave up on trying as the people seemed to do better without his help. Without a home, family, love, or purpose, a devolution into lethargy and gluttony to fill the hole and drown out his inner pain seems, well, completely believable. I also loved how he discovered he was still worthy. That’s a big deal with people suffering from depression. You feel like a burden to others, and that effort is too risky. You feel afraid to put yourself out there and fail, yet even more afraid that you’ll succeed, because you don’t deserve success. You’re not worthy of it. So that moment when he realized he was always worthy showed him that you can always come back. There is no depths which you can sink to from whence you cannot redeem yourself and return. That’s a very Christian concept of seeking forgiveness from both others and yourself so you can wipe the slate clean and start putting your life back together again. Maybe I just liked the Big Lebowski gag, I don’t know.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 5:00 pm to kingbob
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However, Thor with the Guardians is such a fun combo that I’m really looking forward to their next movie together.
Me too...if we ever get it. I think we could have still gotten that by way of Drinker's fix for him looking for a new Asgard home world.
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I just feel like Fat Thor is a pretty believable response to losing your home, everything and everyone you care about, watching most of them get slaughtered right in front of you, going on a vengeful revenge rampage, failing again as 1/2 the universe is obliterated, getting your petty revenge only to find out it does nothing to heal your pain or bring any sense of justice, etc. I wouldn’t be shocked if Thor started out trying to be helpful and micromanaging at first, but had trouble holding things together and eventually just gave up on trying as the people seemed to do better without his help. Without a home, family, love, or purpose, a devolution into lethargy and gluttony to fill the hole and drown out his inner pain seems, well, completely believable. I also loved how he discovered he was still worthy. That’s a big deal with people suffering from depression. You feel like a burden to others, and that effort is too risky. You feel afraid to put yourself out there and fail, yet even more afraid that you’ll succeed, because you don’t deserve success. You’re not worthy of it. So that moment when he realized he was always worthy showed him that you can always come back. There is no depths which you can sink to from whence you cannot redeem yourself and return. That’s a very Christian concept of seeking forgiveness from both others and yourself so you can wipe the slate clean and start putting your life back together again. Maybe I just liked the Big Lebowski gag, I don’t know.
I think you're right in that they did depression pretty well. I just think that Thor was the wrong character for that move given what he'd gone through to get there. Part of that for me is that as a kid I really liked Thor in the comics, so I have a soft spot for him in the MCU. I liked all three solo movies, though Dark World was pretty weak.
Had it not been for the Hawkeye/Ronin character already being established in the comics, I kind of could have pictured him falling into that type of depression. Instead they went full on crazy vengeance with him.
BTW, appreciate you taking the time to watch the video and comment.
Posted on 10/13/20 at 8:25 am to kingbob
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I’m glad he didn’t instantly get back in shape because that is extremely difficult and takes lots of time, patience, work, a complete lifestyle change, and setbacks
he is a god... This post was edited on 10/13/20 at 8:25 am
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