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re: Idris Elba says James Bond shouldn't be "woke"

Posted on 6/8/26 at 2:10 pm to
Posted by Handsome Pete
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 6/8/26 at 2:10 pm to
Idris would make a great Bond villain, or he could replace Ralph Fiennes as M in a recurring role.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/8/26 at 3:01 pm to
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If he was 20 years younger,
Yeah
Posted by Shiftyplus1
Marathon, FL
Member since Oct 2005
14747 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 3:04 pm to
And woke isn't even the world's taste. It's 20% of an already separate bunch of assholes that would welcome a trans Bond girl or something.
Posted by mule74
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Posted on 6/8/26 at 3:38 pm to
Ideas Elba is great and I would 100% support him as Bond.
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
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Posted on 6/8/26 at 3:40 pm to
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If he was 20 years younger, I'd absolutely love to see him play Bond.


He could 100% still play Bond.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
31013 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 4:04 pm to
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“I’ve always felt that it’s not a realistic thing,” he told British GQ. “James Bond was written how he was written for a reason. But I was complimented by it. And also, I think, in realistic terms, some markets just don’t go for that. Bond is big all over the world. And [audiences] won’t [all] go for a Black male, an African male, playing Bond. That’s not what they like in their culture. Period.”

Idris is right about the black Bond thing. James Bond is a white dude, nothing wrong with that. I've never understood why they didn't have other 00 agents in the movies. Idris won't be 007, but he could have been 004 or 005 or 009, etc. Do some buddy cop stuff and a spin off or two. Profit.
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 6/8/26 at 5:12 pm to
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are saying Idris is a fool and Hollywood was never interested in “woke”, just making money.


Why would I be saying anything about what an actor said about a role he isn't up for?
Posted by Demonbengal
Ruston
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 6/8/26 at 9:29 pm to
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Idris is right about the black Bond thing. James Bond is a white dude, nothing wrong with that. I've never understood why they didn't have other 00 agents in the movies. Idris won't be 007, but he could have been 004 or 005 or 009, etc. Do some buddy cop stuff and a spin off or two. Profit.


Elba’s in great shape, but maybe a little too old to be an active agent. I am not opposed to him having some role in the bond movies, but with his age would probably need to be a more senior leader position. On a side note, I really liked him as Duncan in MOTU. I think he was the right pick for that role.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28782 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 9:46 pm to
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Elba’s in great shape, but maybe a little too old to be an active agent.


I don't pretend to know the age norms of spy world, but in the military mid-50s is ancient, especially in combat arms. In professional athletics it's damned near unheard of. You don't get faster or stronger as you age, so I'd agree that Idris is getting too far up there.

I've probably seen all the Bond films but I'm not a "Bond fan". From the casual fan's perspective you just need a white guy, Scottish accent (although I'm probably an outlier there), old enough to have some experience but young enough to be proficient with violence.
Posted by sqerty
AP
Member since May 2022
8602 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 10:23 pm to
Jeffrey Wright as Felix Leiter was good casting. Would be nice to see him reprise the role in the upcoming film
Posted by tucoco
Las Vegas
Member since Mar 2021
7573 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 10:53 pm to
This is why Elba is Sir Idris!!
Posted by mattchewbocca
houma, la
Member since Jun 2008
6971 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 3:21 am to
Idris has been great in everything he touches.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
35914 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 5:45 am to
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He made that DLC, hands down. Although the lady who played Songbird (Minji Chang) did a damn good job as well.


That DLC between them and Cherami Leigh is some of the finest voice acting I’ve ever heard in a game.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71200 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 8:28 am to
I would love a movie where James and Idris’s characters are rivals who have good reasons not to trust each other, but are forced to work together to save the world, learning to trust, respect, and befriend each other along the way. A Bond movie where he has a partner to banter with and possibly compete with for Bond girls would be a fun twist on the formula. You could even up the tension by having Idris be from a different spy agency or law enforcement instead of Mi5 to help manufacture the tension.

Maybe Idris is interpol and is tracking Bond thinking he’s a suspect in a robbery tied to his espionage activities to keep the mcguffin from ending up in the hands if the bad guys. The bad guys get the drop on them and steal the mcguffin, so they have to work together to get it back. At the end of the movie, Idris gets recruited into Mi5, setting up spinoffs with him as 009 or something like that.

This is how you diversify a white character IP, not by race swapping or gender swapping the main character, but by introducing a new diverse character in a situation that makes sense, develop that character through an adventure with the main cast, and then let the diverse character lead a spinoff film/series. This can all be done without emasculating existing characters or disrespecting previous established lore.
This post was edited on 6/9/26 at 8:34 am
Posted by PuertoRicanBlaze
Book Board Admin
Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 12:39 pm to
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I’d be down to see him as an allied spy


He'd make a perfect M.
Posted by drjett
Lake Chuck
Member since May 2012
1054 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:15 pm to
Simple solution.

Cast him as 005 or 008 or somesuch.

Just give him a license to kill and turn him loose on the terrorists.

Guy would kill it in that role.
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