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I Love Lucy is the greatest sitcom of all time
Posted on 9/19/18 at 10:03 am
Posted on 9/19/18 at 10:03 am
IMO, it is t even debatable. The situations were always funny and and some of the most classic moments in television history
Posted on 9/19/18 at 10:04 am to athenslife101
Fred and Ethel alone made it must see tv
Posted on 9/19/18 at 10:08 am to VOR
They actually absolutely loathed each other in real life so that's kinda awkward when they're insulting each other
Posted on 9/19/18 at 10:17 am to athenslife101
Lol, no.
Seinfeld and it aint even close
Seinfeld and it aint even close
Posted on 9/19/18 at 10:20 am to athenslife101
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The situations were always funny and and some of the most classic moments in television history
Setting aside the core of the show - Lucille Ball's comedic timing - from a pioneering standpoint, the show doesn't get as much credit as it should, IMHO. Just as Birth of a Nation and Citizen Kane did for filmmakers, ILL did for every sitcom that came later - demonstrating the possibilities with the right combination of ingredients.
Technically, ILL (along with Hal Roach's Amos and Andy) popularized the 3-camera (really multi-camera, but colloquially 3-camera) format in front of a live audience. Another Desilu feature was film vs kinescope (which is an intriguing logistical problem that plagued the early, pre-satellite, pre-cable television industry). Not only was film higher quality, it paved the way for reruns - a market for which had not been proven. ILL was the key program that generated the concept of "reruns." While Luci and Desi had to take a pay cut to offset the additional cost of film, they retained 80% of the rights to that film and ultimately created a massive production firm (Desilu) that dominated the early decades of the North American television market.
As far as content, ILL still holds up, with Ball's unmistakable talent shining through almost 7 decades later. Desi and the supporting cast were okay - perhaps the legendary Vivian Vance better than okay. Certainly I would say the Honeymooners, man-for-man, had a more talented cast, although Gleason and Ball at the top was close.
The main reason that the stories on I Love Lucy seem so familiar, and perhaps dated, to modern audiences is that essentially every family sitcom has referred to, adopted, incorporated or quite explicitly rejected the storylines and tropes from I Love Lucy.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 11:18 am to athenslife101
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it is t even debatable
then why even start a thread if you're not open to conversation? You just looking for upvotes thus confirmation?
Posted on 9/19/18 at 11:28 am to athenslife101
The Honeymooners was great, too. The classic 39 anyway.
All in the Family IMO was the best. The last handful of seasons were a bit meh but the earlier ones were pure gold.
All in the Family IMO was the best. The last handful of seasons were a bit meh but the earlier ones were pure gold.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 11:31 am to athenslife101
I have to go with Barney Miller, which never dipped in quality and was truly abandoned as soon as the creators thought that retelling the same stories was their only next step.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 11:33 am to Midget Death Squad
I said imo. I don't k ow if anyone agrees with me or not.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 11:43 am to athenslife101
For my list, nostalgia aside, I think WKRP, Cheers, Frasier, and Newsradio are probably my top 4. They were all reasonably smart, didn't talk down to the audience and had really solid acting/writing/direction that stand the test of time.
But those are favorites. "Preferences" if you like. I don't necessarily think of any of them as the GOAT - I Love Lucy, The Honeymooners, All in the Family and Seinfeld are probably the legitimate contenders for an "objectively" great, however "subjective" the discussion might get.
Just from a standpoint of innovative, influential or both.
But those are favorites. "Preferences" if you like. I don't necessarily think of any of them as the GOAT - I Love Lucy, The Honeymooners, All in the Family and Seinfeld are probably the legitimate contenders for an "objectively" great, however "subjective" the discussion might get.
Just from a standpoint of innovative, influential or both.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 11:45 am to athenslife101
Everybody Loves Raymond and King of Queens is still low key two of my favorite sitcoms ever. Still watch those episodes non-stop even though I've watched it 1000 times.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 11:58 am to athenslife101
You are right about one thing. There is no debate about it. But you are on the wrong side of the claim
Posted on 9/19/18 at 12:08 pm to VOR
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Fred and Ethel alone made it must see tv
And they too really didn't get along all that well. Vivian Vance (Ethel) was upset that William Frawley (Fred) was picked to play her husband since he was many years older than her.
It was also written in Vance's contract that she had to be so many pounds heavier than Lucille Ball to play her part.
There's a lot of backbiting that went on in many of the sitcoms where everyone looked to be good pals, but really didn't like each other much.
Ed O'Neal couldn't stand Amanda Bearse in "Married With Children". Elanor Donahue, who played "Ellie" the pharmacist on the old "Andy Griffith Show" quit the show when she found she didn't have the chemistry to play Andy's love interest. Also Francis Bauvier who played Aunt Bee was not particularly fond of Griffith and the way he liked to joke around as she though of herself as a serious actress.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 12:14 pm to athenslife101
The Andy Griffith Show is better than I Love Lucy.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 12:19 pm to athenslife101
It’s definitely on the short list. Lucille was brilliant. Her timing was world class. She was a national treasure.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 12:36 pm to Lsupimp
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Lucille was brilliant
She is forever one of my favorites.. not only from the show, but she also is the reason we get Star Trek. Read up on it, she was the one that saved star trek.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 12:41 pm to athenslife101
You obviously didn't see ALF.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 1:17 pm to TheFonz
Fred Mertz was great..There are too many scenes that I could bring up that he was hilarious.
What a show..It was the only show that would get a big belly laugh out of my Dad. It came on at 10:30pm, after the news. I would remind my Dad and we would stay up to watch it.
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The Honeymooners
What a show..It was the only show that would get a big belly laugh out of my Dad. It came on at 10:30pm, after the news. I would remind my Dad and we would stay up to watch it.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 1:53 pm to athenslife101
1. Andy Griffith Show
2. The Honeymooners
3. I Love Lucy
4. Seinfeld
5. The Office
Probably some recency bias in there...
2. The Honeymooners
3. I Love Lucy
4. Seinfeld
5. The Office
Probably some recency bias in there...
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