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re: I liked Man of Steel better than the Avengers

Posted on 1/28/14 at 3:53 pm to
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 3:53 pm to
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It's a better film.


For me to poop on
Posted by Ibleedblackandgold
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 3:53 pm to
Tried and failed.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 3:54 pm to
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Nobody likes that movie. Nobody worth their salt likes Returns.

According to him, more people like Supes Returns than MOS.
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 3:55 pm to
Could the movie/TV board of tigerdroppings actually be seeing a board war between Marvel and DC fanboys for the first time ever?



Chicken has created a monster.
Posted by thatguy1892
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 3:55 pm to
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quote: Oh and isn't awesome how one small human woman and an Artificial Intelligence that knew exactly how to deal with the threat were able to stop super aliens just as well as a super powerful god. That was awesome.


Lois killed Zod? Was that at the end of the credits? Dammit I walked out early. I guess Superman didn't snap is neck well enough.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 3:56 pm to
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o me I felt as if The Avengers was Saturday morning cartoon turned into a movie


So what you're saying is that the Avengers is more faithful to the Silver Age of comic books? You know the Silver Age, the one that grew comic books into a huge, multi-faceted industry? The one that that has simple narratives within which people enjoy watching heroes exchange blows with villains while getting a little humor on the side? That one?

I agree 100%. That's why the Avengers is excellent.

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while MoS was a movie that was trying to be like a Frank Miller/Alan Moore comic.


Dark. Darkity, Dark Dark Dark. For the sake of Dark!!! And MoS didn't do that well.

It was an action movie, and an above average one. That's about it.

This post was edited on 1/28/14 at 3:58 pm
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 3:57 pm to
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Lois killed Zod?


Captain America Killed Loki? He killed more aliens than Hulk?

Posted by thatguy1892
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 3:58 pm to
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Tried and failed.


I wouldn't say completely failed, but it did trip over itself. I mean they should have had Superman kill Zod.
Posted by thatguy1892
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 4:00 pm to
Loki can't die he's a god. But Hawkeye sure racked up some frags with his mighty compound bow. When full on Natty Bumppo.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 4:01 pm to
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Loki can't die he's a god.


So then none of what you said happened?

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But Hawkeye sure racked up some frags with his mighty compound bow. When full on Natty Bumppo.


Again, you clearly the missed the "comic book" part of the Avengers. Hawkeye has been killing aliens for a few decades.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 4:06 pm to
I did too, thou I enjoyed both films. The avengers is a little overreated IMO, especially on this board.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 4:08 pm to
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I did too, thou I enjoyed both films. The avengers is a little overreated IMO, especially on this board.


Not really, but you will have people who respond to this:

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People will hate you for it on here, but let them deal. It's not your fault that you enjoyed a movie more than one that had predictability and campiness of a Saturday morning cartoon with the explosions and over use CGI of a Michael Bay film. Seriously, when I was watching the attack on New York, the whole time I was thinking: wait I thought this was Chicago and Sentinal Prime was trying to bring Cybertron to Earth. But no, if Joss Weadon does shite like that it's okay. I mean he really needs a pick me up considering that the Avengers and Buffy are the only two things he's done that has seen any type of success. But I guess that just makes him more the genius.


There are a few people who are overly critical of the Avengers and yeah people will come to its defense.

If you remember the official thread, it was mostly balanced. Plenty of people had negative reactions. Plenty said it was shallow. And Plenty loved it.
Posted by thatguy1892
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 4:10 pm to
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Again, you clearly the missed the "comic book" part of the Avengers. Hawkeye has been killing aliens for a few decades.


No I didn't. I said that it seemed like it was a movie based on a Saturday morning cartoon, based on a comic. Again, it's not that I think that Avengers was a horrible movie, it was entertaining. What I'm saying is, to me, The Avengers was like another Transformers and never understood the hype. Both are Saturday morning cartoonish to me.

ETA: I didn't read the original thread for Avengers. I knew I was going to watch it, and didn't want it spoiled for me. (even though it went as I thought it would) Wasn't going to pay for it either.
This post was edited on 1/28/14 at 4:14 pm
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 4:10 pm to
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Brandon Routh would've been great in MoS


I agree, but Cavill was great.

Oh, and MoS is better than Avengers, and I love Avengers.
Posted by Tactical1
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 4:14 pm to
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For me to poop on


Clever, I will upvote.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 4:21 pm to
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No I didn't. I said that it seemed like it was a movie based on a Saturday morning cartoon, based on a comic. Again, it's not that I think that Avengers was a horrible movie, it was entertaining.


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It's not your fault that you enjoyed a movie more than one that had predictability and campiness of a Saturday morning cartoon with the explosions and over use CGI of a Michael Bay film. Seriously, when I was watching the attack on New York, the whole time I was thinking: wait I thought this was Chicago and Sentinal Prime was trying to bring Cybertron to Earth. But no, if Joss Weadon does shite like that it's okay. I mean he really needs a pick me up considering that the Avengers and Buffy are the only two things he's done that has seen any type of success. But I guess that just makes him more the genius.


You went from one end to a completely different take.

And even if...

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Saturday morning cartoon, based on a comic. Again, it's not that I think that Avengers was a horrible movie, it was entertaining.


Is your real opinion, then that is selling it short and again not understanding it for what it was. You trying to compare MoS, a movie built to mostly eschew comic book influence and use the story as a jumping off point for a more serious affair, and the Avenges, that is built specifically to cherish comic books.

Two different purposes. That's a bit harsh to say "Saturday morning cartoon," when all the Avengers did was try to be a visual comic book. And it succeeded immensely. We moved this discussion from TDK to MoS, but that's all this is. While Nolan, and seemingly DC< seek to build a completely different world from their source material, Marvel is looking for the best way to build their source into a film.

And for that, the Avengers is really unprecedented. Outside of LoTR nothing comes close in scope. To nail it for something it isn't trying to do, have an oppressively dark and moody story, is again, not getting it.

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The Avengers was like another Transformers and never understood the hype. Both are Saturday morning cartoonish to me.


Unfair comparison.
This post was edited on 1/28/14 at 4:23 pm
Posted by davesdawgs
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 4:22 pm to
Haven't seen the Avengers but Man of Steel was well done; liked it a lot.
Posted by RyseofRome
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 4:40 pm to
Man of steel was deeper then avengers, might not be saying much.. and don't know which movie had a better story, less plot holes, or better chaatcter development, Man of steel was shot better, had a way better musical score.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 6:45 pm to
Good for you.

Personally, I got bored at parts of MoS, did not think the pacing was nearly as good and not sure if there was any humor at all.

As far as just enjoyability, for me, MoS was about a 6. Decent movie, no interest in watching it again though. Avengers was a 9+ for me. Only movie I have watched twice in the theater ever (took my dad the week after I saw it).
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Member since Nov 2008
60096 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 7:03 pm to
so just because he prefers MOS that makes him an idiot? WOW!!
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