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I just finished the Battlestar Gallactica reboot and i have questions. SPOILERS

Posted on 7/17/26 at 6:50 am
Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 6:50 am
Was Starbuck a Cylon? We watched this thing at warp speed (4 episodes a night) probably a mistake because a lot of shite ran together.
The hot blonde in Baltar’s head was both real and in his head? If he wasn’t a Cylon how was she inside his head?

Someone please explain the ending. I’m assuming they arrived on Earth at the dawn of what we consider modern men (not Neanderthals). They launch all the big ships into the sun I’m assuming in a prime directive type move as to not corrupt the natives but they kept some of the smaller ships which could have easily been seen.

I know I missed something in the flash forward 150,000 years. I probably need to watch the finale again.

Overall I liked the show especially the season with Pegasus and the battle strategy was really cool in several episodes. Just got kind of confusing at the end. It got to the point where it felt like everyone that wasn’t a redshirt or sick like the President was a Cylon.

In a show about space travel and sentient humanoid robots the most unbelievable thing was that old one eye could pull the high quality arse he did.
This post was edited on 7/17/26 at 7:00 am
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 6:57 am to
As much as I like the rebooted BSG, I really didn’t care for how it ended. Without going into detail or spoilers, it felt rushed & confusing.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 6:59 am to
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Without going into detail or spoilers, it felt rushed & confusing.


Please go into detail and spoilers. I’ll put it in the title.
Posted by Flats
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 7:01 am to
It's been too long to remember the details but I remember thinking it looked like the writers were caught by surprise. "Hey, the show is coming to an end, let's wrap this up in an episode or two."
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 7:12 am to
Been a while since I saw the series, but the ending seemed pretty blurry when it comes to human and cylon history. Basically the Cylons had become so good at mimicking humans, even down to the very DNA level, there was a mixing of the ‘races’.

Also the cycle of humanity, creating artificial intelligent beings, a.k.a. toasters, who then rebelled and waged war against humans had occurred several times over, not just once.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 7:12 am to
First hour of finale was great. Second hour meh.
Posted by wareaglepete
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 9:25 am to
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Someone please explain the ending. I’m assuming they arrived on Earth at the dawn of what we consider modern men (not Neanderthals). They launch all the big ships into the sun I’m assuming in a prime directive type move as to not corrupt the natives but they kept some of the smaller ships which could have easily been seen.


I don't know why people don't like the ending. What else did they want? I think it is perfect.

They had already found Earth (the first one) earlier and it was destroyed. It is our Earth that they end up on and they are in an early Neanderthals period. They destroy everything to break the cycle and start over so they do not bring their evils with them to this new planet. Some early explorers to the Americas would burn their ships so everyone would be all in starting a new and wouldn't have the temptation to revert back to the old place and ways if things got tough.

Flash forward 150,000 years. There is a news story of finding the oldest human ancestor (it was the little human/cylon hybrid girl from Galactica that they show running around). Then you see Baltar and Six discussing all that is happening on Earth is just exactly as it happened on Earth (the first one), Caprica, and Kobol before. And they then discuss if it will happen again with one thinking for sure and the other thinking maybe this time will be different (very similar in theme to Jacob and MIB on LOST). It ends with the TV showing humans on Earth are developing robots and AI just like had happened before. It is ambiguous but leaves me thinking they will end up the same.

The only thing confusing about the ending to me is what Baltar and Six are? Are they the same people and Cylons are still wandering around the universe and popped in to see what was going on with this planet since back in the day? Was Baltar indeed a Cylon as you asked? Are they angels? This could be since they are talking about God saying "you know he doesn't like that name" like they know him personally.

Was there something else that was confusing? Not being an arse, just wondering and maybe I could answer that to help. Hope this was helpful.
This post was edited on 7/17/26 at 9:27 am
Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 10:07 am to
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Baltar and Six are? Are they the same people and Cylons are still wandering around the universe and popped in to see what was going on with this planet since back in the day? Was Baltar indeed a Cylon as you asked? Are they angels? This could be since they are talking about God saying "you know he doesn't like that name" like they know him personally. Was there something else that was confusing? Not being an arse, just wondering and maybe I could answer that to help. Hope this was helpful.


Thank you. It was helpful. I was mainly confused about Baltar being in the future since I’m pretty sure he wasn’t a Cylon. 6 being there made sense even though Cylons had evolved so close to humans I figured she would age out and die at some point.

I guess my only other question is was Starbuck a Cylon? She found her own body supposedly in the crashed Viper and then started getting the weird premonitions and figured out the child’s map through musical notes. Kind of like the final 5 started hearing music and then figured out they were Cylons.

Also the version of 6 that was in Baltar’s head. What was that?
This post was edited on 7/17/26 at 10:19 am
Posted by wareaglepete
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 10:35 am to
I was curious and did some research and it says that the Baltar and Six we see at the end, and also when the real Baltar and Six get to the new Earth, are their ethereal selves, whatever that is. I say angels.

Not sure on Starbuck. Looked that up as well and most think she was not a cylon, but also an ethereal/angel. She died and when she came back she was an angel. Not sure about that.

I can't remember for sure if they explained it, but I figured in the original mini-series that Baltar was actually messing around with the real Six at first and then she implanted something in him so that she was always in his head after that. Looked that up and the other theory is she was the ethereal/angel Six.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 10:39 am to
Thanks for the info. So Humans and the Humanoid Cylons had souls. Makes sense that some Cylons were good and some were bad and some walked that grey line like old one eyes hot wife. Even some of the same model were completely different. See the Boomers.
This post was edited on 7/17/26 at 10:40 am
Posted by wareaglepete
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 10:42 am to
I definitely think so. There was a faction of them that was obsessed with God. I think when AI became self aware and evolved, they became a separate life form, that most likely had a soul.
Posted by TygerTyger
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 10:57 am to
I loved this show. Just as I loved Lost.

Both suffered from the same problem. The writers kept adding mystery after mystery, with no apparent fricking clue what the answers were. Both shows had incredible characters, acting, writing, and visuals. But they were both riding the "tune in next week, all secrets will be revealed" wave and it showed in the piss poor endings. Both shows left tons of plot holes and unanswered questions. Both shows ended in ways that felt like the writers just decided "frick it, we gotta land this thing, ignore all that extra shite we've been teasing about for seasons"

I loved both shows, until the endings. They can both eat bags of dicks.
Posted by keks tadpole
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 11:43 am to
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Without going into detail or spoilers, it felt rushed & confusing.
IIRC there was a writers strike. I also think they started on the fly and had to reel in a lot of loose ends, hence the mythical connotations to close loops.
Great series nonetheless.
An extra two minutes of steady visuals of capital ship combat effectiveness in Resurrection part 2 would have been fantastic.
This post was edited on 7/17/26 at 11:50 am
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 11:50 am to
The recycled, over and over again ancestry just loses me in the significance of it all. That’s not how galaxies or the universe works.

It almost sounds like they drew a little bit of inspiration from Foundation.
Posted by keks tadpole
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 12:04 pm to
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It almost sounds like they drew a little bit of inspiration from Foundation.
Replace Cylon with Replicant and you have Bladerunner.
Same concept, except in BSGri, the organic based "replicant" can export it's consciousness as easily as memories can be imported.
It is literally the Tree of Life and the reason Adam and Eve were expelled from Eden (hence they find the tree and become gods themselves), hinting at the aforementioned mythological connotations.
But too late, the Cylons figured it out and the first Cylon war on Kobol followed.
This post was edited on 7/17/26 at 12:09 pm
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 2:13 pm to
I agree. After they found the bombed out Earth. Then got to our Earth it really fell apart.
I'm still not sure how I belt after the final five were revealed either. I guess it's good we got an ending but it was an odd one. They were looking for earth. Found it. It was destroyed. Then they find our earth and decide to live with the cavemen.
Also flashing forward the ghosts/souls/spirits of six and Baltar was odd
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 2:44 pm to
Exactly!

We got AN ending. Was it terrible? No, not really. But it wasn't satisfying either. It felt tacked on, like "Oh, btw, the saga has been recycling over and over again for 100's of millions if not billions of years, and we're headed to the next iteration of it.

The End."

Wow. ok.
This post was edited on 7/17/26 at 2:45 pm
Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 3:02 pm to
I didn’t watch any of the stand alone movies like Razor. How long before the Caprica Cylon uprising was the one on Kobol?

Also when Admiral Adama would get pissed at someone I would say in my Cartman voice “How do I reach theeeeese kids”
This post was edited on 7/17/26 at 3:03 pm
Posted by bluestem75
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 3:04 pm to
Go watch the part where Starbuck enters the final jump coordinates. They literally say “angel” in that sequence.

Leoban, in that sequence, says, “I don’t see Kara Thrace; I see an angel with the light of God. Angel.”

Right around :55

The path of the surviving humans mimics The Book of Mormon. The idea is that Starbuck is the angel Moroni: a warrior who died and then was reborn as an angel tasked with guiding Joseph Smith to the golden plates that became the foundation of the BOM.

Wikipedia Angel Moroni

Since you liked the Pegasus, you must watch Razor.

The destruction of Kobol happened millennia before the events of BSG.

This post was edited on 7/17/26 at 3:19 pm
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 3:17 pm to
Coming in like a BSG loremaster.

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