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How long before 4K physical discs are obsolete?

Posted on 8/11/22 at 8:53 am
Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 8/11/22 at 8:53 am
Not sure if this is a MTV or Tech board post.

I have a huge DVD collection that is basically trash now. I also have a decent amount of Blu-Ray discs that are becoming obsolete. I've purchased a few physical 4K movies/sets in the past year.

I love having a physical copy of movies/shows that I love, but man, I hate the idea of having to do this forever. Digital is convenient, but you don't really own anything and some internet trouble will leave you looking at your walls.

I just wanted to vent, and give some of you a chance to make me feel better about loving physical discs.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/11/22 at 9:04 am to
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I have a huge DVD collection that is basically trash now


Why are they trash?
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
14989 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 9:09 am to
They're pretty much obsolete for me now because I don't even have a DVD or Blu-Ray player connected to my TV anymore, I just stream everything.

I do acknowledge your point about being vulnerable to internet troubles but I like having less clutter without the disc's. I guess it comes down to personal preference
Posted by CAD703X
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 8/11/22 at 9:11 am to
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I have a huge DVD collection that is basically trash now


Why are they trash?

do you even high def baw?
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/11/22 at 9:11 am to
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Why are they trash?

I don't guess they're trash, but my eyes have definitely gotten used to the higher quality that Blu-ray/streaming offers.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 8/11/22 at 9:14 am to
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How long before 4K physical discs are obsolete?



About 2 years ago
Posted by CAD703X
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Member since Jul 2008
78042 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 9:16 am to
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They're pretty much obsolete for me now because I don't even have a DVD or Blu-Ray player connected to my TV anymore, I just stream everything.


i'll answer this once more. i have the following:

- purchased ticket and seen blade runner in theater
- purchased ticket and seen blade runner 'directors cut' in theater
- purchased blade runner vhs
- purchased blade runner director's cut vhs
- purchased blade runner laserdisc (yes, yes i do)
- purchased blade runner HD-DVD special edition

i stopped there. screw the constant evolution of the same content.

quote:

I do acknowledge your point about being vulnerable to internet troubles but I like having less clutter without the disc's. I guess it comes down to personal preference


plex will run locally and you can get anything you want. i now have:

- blade runner bluray remux (no transcode)
- blade runner 4K remux

you know what? i dont feel an ounce of guilt downloading those and yep, when they inevitably upgrade the audio to dolby atmos i'll download that too.

i more than paid my dues for a 2 hour movie.


This post was edited on 8/11/22 at 9:28 am
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51271 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 9:22 am to
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do you even high def baw?


eh, I don't need every movie to be in high def.
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
9763 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 9:23 am to
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I love having a physical copy of movies/shows that I love, but man, I hate the idea of having to do this forever. Digital is convenient, but you don't really own anything and some internet trouble will leave you looking at your walls.


Why not both? I generally won't buy a blu ray unless it comes with a Digital Copy. Even the ones that don't come with a digital code, Vudu has disc-to-digital for a lot of movies that allows you to get a digital copy from anywhere from like 3-5 dlars.

That said, the dystopian hellscape where you will own nothing and be happy is not that far away

Blu Ray, 4K or otherwise, is already obsolete. It seems like I read an article years ago where manufacturers like Samsung were no longer making new Blu Ray players.

Also, notice how streaming series like The Book of Boba Fett will pretty much never receive a physical release. Gotta keep people subscribed to those streaming services
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 9:27 am to
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I do acknowledge your point about being vulnerable to internet troubles but I like having less clutter without the disc's. I guess it comes down to personal preference


You’re also vulnerable to corporate decision making in what gets streamed and what doesn’t. (Hint: Like Blockbuster prioritizing shelf space with new releases, streamers also have to prioritize server space with new releases. So good luck trying to find Play Misty for Me or The Outlaw Josey Wales whenever you get a spur of the moment desire to watch it.)

Always have your most beloved movies in some sort of physical form.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78042 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 9:29 am to
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So good luck trying to find Play Misty for Me or The Outlaw Josey Wales whenever you get a spur of the moment desire to watch it.)
plex
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 9:33 am to
Currently, it says Josey Wales is on both Hulu and HBO Max, but my point is it will eventually be moved off and you’ll have to wait a while to return.

Play Misty for Me is available for rent from Amazon and YouTube, but for $3.99 per rental, you could have just invested in a DVD copy for $5.99 and had it to keep.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
150706 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 9:46 am to
I don't buy movies much anymore, but still will occasionally. I love having physical DVDs, and you'll always be able to buy a DVD player and go that route if you want to. Now I own more physical movies than most people do (almost 1,700 in total), but that's because it was my addiction for a while.

But as "sky is falling?" as OML is sometimes, he makes a good point about owning your favorite movies and movies of which their content may one day be deemed "offensive." Because once they are changed/altered, you won't be able to stream the original versions at all anymore. It's happened several times already and will likely only get worse. So having physical copies of those seems like a good thing.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
48736 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 9:48 am to
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eh, I don't need every movie to be in high def.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/11/22 at 10:00 am to
Considering almost all 4k discs aren't that much better than Blu-ray, it will be a while. Blu-ray isn't obsolete.

Physical media, especially for major releases, is better than streaming
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10564 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 10:04 am to
You know what I really enjoy? Buying a 4K disc and going home to my 4K player.

Reality is when I started looking at it and pricing it, the 4K discs were inordinately more expensive than the 4K Apple purchase.

It's portable. The difference in viewing is negligible. The pricing is 50% what physical media actually is.
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Antarctica
Member since Aug 2018
9265 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 10:21 am to
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Considering almost all 4k discs aren't that much better than Blu-ray


I think this depends on a whole bunch of factors, including the source material, the quality of the Blu-ray transfer, and of course what kind of tv/projector you're using to watch the film and the distance you're sitting from the screen.

For example, the 2008 Blu-ray release of Event Horizon looks noticeably worse than the 2021 Blu-ray release of Event Horizon by Shout! Factory. From the reviews I'm seeing now, there's a much more noticeable difference between the 2008 Blu-ray release and the recent 4K release, but much less of a difference between the 2021 Blu-ray release and the recent 4K release.

With all that said, any difference will be much more noticeable on a high-end tv (like a nice OLED) as opposed to a bottom-tier 4K tv (assuming you're sitting at the correct distance for 4K content).
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34267 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 10:24 am to
They're already obsolete for me personally. I have a huge binder full of DVD's in a closet somewhere that is pretty useless. I haven't owned a DVD/Blue Ray player in years. I guess the xbox could play them now that I think about it.

There's just no way I'm going to pay for one 4k movie what I would for an entire month of Netflix for a movie I'm going to watch once or twice. I subscribe to most all of the services and only once in recent memory was there a movie I was wanting to watch that wasn't streaming. So I rented it for $4.99 on Apple+. Had I waited, it was free a few weeks later.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 8/11/22 at 10:24 am to
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I love having a physical copy of movies/shows that I love, but man, I hate the idea of having to do this forever. Digital is convenient, but you don't really own anything and some internet trouble will leave you looking at your walls.



you can also have someone/someAI decide something is not going to be available to stream anymore (or will need to be "edited" because it is sexist/racist/homophobic/wrongthink)

Physical media.

ALWAYS physical media
This post was edited on 8/11/22 at 11:05 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422412 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 10:25 am to
Lol that's why I said almost all

Some are considered worse. I have T2 on 4k and the general consensus is the BR is better.

The human eye won't be able to discern that much of a difference past 4k I don't believe
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