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How accurate is "Gangs of New York" in lifestyle of people in 1860's NY?
Posted on 6/14/17 at 9:25 pm
Posted on 6/14/17 at 9:25 pm
Obviously all the drama is drummed up since it's a movie, but how acurate do you suppose the language, interactions, lifestyles, and people are to how people actually were back then?
Posted on 6/14/17 at 9:33 pm to Tiger1242
Did they have plumbing by then or was their shite in the streets?
I read once that parasols were popular for women to shield them from the piss pots being emptied into streets from the upper floors.
I read once that parasols were popular for women to shield them from the piss pots being emptied into streets from the upper floors.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 9:36 pm to gthog61
This is 1863 I think they had plumbing
Posted on 6/14/17 at 9:36 pm to Tiger1242
Not very accurate according to historians. Apparently the names of the gangs and the street names are the only accurate parts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 9:40 pm to Henry Jones Jr
The way they fought has got to be bullshite, no shields, no strategy, no working together?
Posted on 6/14/17 at 9:45 pm to Tiger1242
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The way they fought has got to be bullshite, no shields, no strategy, no working together?
They were Irish
They probably didn't know where they were half of the time because they were so drunk
Posted on 6/14/17 at 9:49 pm to Tiger1242
I totally believe it was a giant Barfight with weapons
If they were fighting each other over catholic vs protestant/ immigrant vs homegrown I wonder how they would feel today
If they were fighting each other over catholic vs protestant/ immigrant vs homegrown I wonder how they would feel today
Posted on 6/14/17 at 10:02 pm to Miganey
I remember seeing a sign in the background of one of the scenes that said "Lincoln wants whites slaves" and laughed
Posted on 6/14/17 at 10:13 pm to Tiger1242
Can't speak to every visual nuance, but the loopy electric guitar score in the opening fight sequence is straight cheese nuts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 10:14 pm to Tiger1242
Read the book, aside from the drama of the fight scenes pretty accurate it seems.
This post was edited on 6/14/17 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 6/14/17 at 11:33 pm to Tiger1242
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This is 1863 I think they had plumbing
That doesn't mean anything.
Pre-20th century it depended on where you lived and how rich your were...so people wouldn't dump shite on you from their piss-potts.
As recently as the late 19th century sewerage systems in some parts of the rapidly industrializing United Kingdom were so inadequate that water-borne diseases such as cholera and typhoid remained a risk.
NY City was an apparent rat-hole up until the 1920's.
Going back 100, 150 years, American cities were disgusting -- and New York City was notorious as the filthiest and stinkiest. We were a laughingstock. The rumor goes that sailors could smell the city six miles out to sea. And all of this filth exacerbated a public health crisis -- people were dying of diseases like typhus, cholera, yellow fever, things that spread more easily in neighborhoods where the streets were dirtier. A cholera epidemic in the 1830’s killed 3,515 people, which was roughly 12 percent of the population at the time. That same percentage would mean about 100,000 people today. The mortality rate in 1860 New York was equal to that of medieval London.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 11:56 pm to Backinthe615
My issue in that scene is how you tell everyone apart.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:43 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
New York is still dirty today
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:51 am to DupontsCircle
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My issue in that scene is how you tell everyone apart.
Each gang had a color. Some wore tophats. It was also a relatively small group of men so they probably knew each other and the nuances of what made a "native" a native.
This post was edited on 6/15/17 at 8:52 am
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:52 am to Tigeralum2008
What I would say is accurate is the portrayal of political cronyism in NYC at the time.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:57 am to Tiger1242
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This is 1863 I think they had plumbing
Affluent people had indoor plumbing, but like you said, this is 1863, so no, most didn't have plumbing
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:36 am to Tiger1242
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Obviously all the drama is drummed up since it's a movie,
Yes but the NYC Draft Riots really happened.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:29 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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That doesn't mean anything. Pre-20th century it depended on where you lived and how rich your were...so people wouldn't dump shite on you from their piss-potts. As recently as the late 19th century sewerage systems in some parts of the rapidly industrializing United Kingdom were so inadequate that water-borne diseases such as cholera and typhoid remained a risk. NY City was an apparent rat-hole up until the 1920's. Going back 100, 150 years, American cities were disgusting -- and New York City was notorious as the filthiest and stinkiest. We were a laughingstock. The rumor goes that sailors could smell the city six miles out to sea. And all of this filth exacerbated a public health crisis -- people were dying of diseases like typhus, cholera, yellow fever, things that spread more easily in neighborhoods where the streets were dirtier. A cholera epidemic in the 1830’s killed 3,515 people, which was roughly 12 percent of the population at the time. That same percentage would mean about 100,000 people today. The mortality rate in 1860 New York was equal to that of medieval London.
You that snobby know it all from the Good Will Hunting bar scene?
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:06 am to LordSaintly
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Yes but the NYC Draft Riots really happened.
Well no shite
It's historical fiction so parts of it have to be based on real history
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