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re: How accurate is "Gangs of New York" in lifestyle of people in 1860's NY?
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:42 am to Backinthe615
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:42 am to Backinthe615
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Can't speak to every visual nuance, but the loopy electric guitar score in the opening fight sequence is straight cheese nuts
Is "cheese nuts" a good, or bad thing?
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Posted on 6/15/17 at 3:40 pm to Backinthe615
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in the opening fight sequence
Liam Neesan would have destroyed Daniel Day Lewis IRL, so not very accurate.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 3:44 pm to Tiger1242
Many years ago, I read a book on the New York of that day. The tenements in that area were so huge and densely populated and ridiculously dangerous, the police wouldn't go near them. If a perp ran into those areas they'd consider them lost.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 3:46 pm to Emteein
Knowing DDL's methods, he probably trained extensively in 19th century knife fighting.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 3:55 pm to Brosef Stalin
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Knowing DDL's methods, he probably trained extensively in 19th century knife fighting.
Let's look at the tale of the tape.
Liam Neeson is 65 yo, measures in at 6'-4" and is solid.
Daniel Day Lewis is 60 yo, measures 6'-2" and could be described as lanky at best.
DDL may be a bit younger, but I'm still giving Liam the edge due to the size advantage.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 3:56 pm to Emteein
Plus he has a very specific set of skills.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 4:12 pm to Tiger1242
There are some pretty great dollop podcast episodes on William Poole, the know nothing party and the Bowery boys that give a decent picture of how crazy that time in NYC was.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 5:24 pm to Tigeralum2008
They made Boss Tweed look like a bitch for the gangs instead of the other way around. Tammany Hall ran that city for decades not street thugs.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 5:42 pm to Josh Fenderman
I think the documentary "Blood Fueds" that they showed on the History channel or is it AHC?? I don't fricking know. Anyways one of these channels is closer to showing how "Bill the Butcher" and "John Morrissey" and their gangs the "Bowery Boys" and "Dead Rabbits" looked and lived than this movie "Gangs of New York" did imo.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:29 pm to Amblin
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You that snobby know it all from the Good Will Hunting bar scene?
Nope, I admittedly never read Vickers.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:32 pm to RandySavage
That's what I gathered when Googling some comparisons. The orchestrated dramatic battles didn't happen.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:44 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
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They were Irish
They probably didn't know where they were half of the time because they were so drunk
Being 60% Irish, I can confirm this
I'm pretty sure the melees are accurate
ETA: I just mean them going at it drunk with knives and clubs lol
This post was edited on 6/15/17 at 10:50 pm
Posted on 6/16/17 at 5:23 am to tubucoco
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think the documentary "Blood Fueds" that they showed on the History channel or is it AHC?? I don't fricking know. Anyways one of these channels is closer to showing how "Bill the Butcher" and "John Morrissey" and their gangs the "Bowery Boys" and "Dead Rabbits" looked and lived than this movie "Gangs of New York" did imo.
It was on AHC. Bill the Butcher beat Morrissey's arse in a boxing match and Morrissey sent two Dead Rabbits to shoot and eventually kill Bill. Morrissey went on to be a US Senator
Posted on 6/16/17 at 10:39 am to BamaSaint
It's not how I remember it, but 1863 was a long time ago.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 12:25 pm to LSUDonMCO
You old arse motherfricker ! lol What you do, get a alcohol infused blood transfusion??
This post was edited on 6/16/17 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 6/16/17 at 2:58 pm to Tiger1242
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The way they fought has got to be bullshite, no shields, no strategy, no working together?
Shields?!? Really? Those went out with the longbow and then gunpowder.
Strategy? These are gang fights, and I think they are portrayed reasonably if somewhat hollywoodized. Certainly better than choreographed action movie fights.
BTW - the New York gangs are also featured heavily in one of my favorite books - Winter's Tale. There is very little difference in the treatment between the two and I suspect that Winter's Tale may have influenced Gangs of New York. Unfortunately when they finally made a movie from Winter's Tale it was dogshit.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 4:34 pm to Tigris
They totally forgot to include the peep shows in Time Square
Posted on 6/16/17 at 4:56 pm to gthog61
Went tour some old cities in France a few years back, those little grooves in the middle of streets are literally for shite and piss to flow.
In the middle of the damn street..
In the middle of the damn street..
Posted on 6/16/17 at 7:40 pm to SundayFunday
shite doesn't flow, you wanna come again??
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