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re: Homeland

Posted on 4/26/20 at 9:15 pm to
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 4/26/20 at 9:15 pm to
Now that’s the way to end one of the best series of all time

I don’t think anyone can bitch about that one.

I’m truly sad it’s over, and surprised that both Saul and Carrie, well.......

Don’t want to spoil it for anyone. LOL
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
6077 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 9:16 pm to
Was that great or was that great!

Fantastic ending
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22380 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 9:31 pm to
The anti-GOT ending for sure
Posted by skeeter531
Member since Jun 2014
2409 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 9:37 pm to
I'm the oddball. I didn't like the ending.
Posted by TheFranchise
The Stick
Member since Feb 2005
6209 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 9:50 pm to
That ending was perfect for this show and these characters
Posted by Paedin
Tampa, Florida
Member since Apr 2012
2290 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 10:06 pm to


Loved it. Throw back with the Jazz at the end. It defintely ties back to what Saul told the young CIA girl

quote:

Everything she does, everything, is becuase she never looses sight of whats important.


Imagine being Saul, betrayed, arrow thru the heart. Then the book shows up, and you know, YOU KNOW, shes is whats she always has been. Focused on the goal, no matter the cost.



Obligatory is Clarie Danes hot or not :

Romeo and Juliet got me interested, The Mod Squad hooked me for life

Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
12803 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 10:10 pm to
Claire Danes is definitely hot. I don’t see how it’s questionable.

Everyone probably forgets that she’s over 40 now. She’s aged pretty well.
Posted by GeauxBichGeaux
Member since Apr 2017
1347 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 10:10 pm to
good for carrie and saul, but im just not buying it. yevgeny outmaneuvered us every which way until this point, but now all the sudden hes pussywhipped and shunned by his own people at the same time?
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
6077 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 10:12 pm to
Yep, agree.
Pretty much sums up their relationship at the end.

To know , just KNOW.
P
Loved that between them.

Always have been on the fence about her, but tonight at the end, she was hot.
She fills out a dress nicely and she can be attractive in certain settings.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22380 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 10:25 pm to
Shunned by his people?
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
30382 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 11:47 pm to
I’m lost by that comment as well.

Kick arse ending BTW
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
87521 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 12:23 am to
I hate Carrie with the heat of a thousand suns

She gave up the single most important asset the CIA has to prevent a possibility

I am glad this stupid show is over
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45381 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 1:34 am to
SPOILERS


Love the episode and the end.

I like that she wrote a book telling her story. Hopefully she aired all of the dirty laundry.

I like that Carrie is enjoying herself in Moscow. And I like that she is using Yevgeny while at the same time enjoying herself with him. He likes her but that didn’t stop him from using her to get the flight recorder. So now she’s repaying him likewise.

Some will say Saul’s refusal to give up his asset is admirable. I don’t. He was willing to let a nuclear war break out based on a lie. He was willing to sacrifice countless...hundreds of thousands, maybe more...lives, including the lives of American soldiers. And all just to protect one single person. His asset. That’s how much value he put on it. And it wasn’t just to protect that one person...he liked being the only one able to get reliable info out of Moscow. So I don’t find that admirable at all. frick Saul.

And he would have thrown her to the wolves if he could, even though she stopped a war based on a lie by getting the info. He sent Shin Bet after her and Yevgeny saved her from a lifetime in Colorado Supermax. Saul protected his asset and ability to spy on Russia at the expense of real lives, including American soldiers. He was willing to let countless people die based on a lie. He lost sight of what’s realky important. He was in the spy game too long. It’s reprehensible to me. Again, frick him.

Saul was “but Russia.” Carrie was “frick Russia, let’s worry about them tomorrow, this is more important.” Saul was wrong, Carrie was right.

That being said, I’m glad that Carrie had a backup plan for finding the info. Good for her.

And I’m fine with Carrie sending Saul info now. She’s making up for having to burn his asset and realizes the Russian government sucks too. Like Saul, they were willing to let countless people die when they knew the truth. So she’s paying them back too even though they are clearly protecting her.

Finally, this was a huge indictment of the CIA. A real giant middle finger. When Carrie gets her purse from the office in she and Yevgeny’s home...from the slow pan from the Pulitzer Prize winning book Legacy of Ashes (a damning account of the CIA) on the desk to a giant wall of headlines and articles listing all of the CIA’s failures and corruption...the message was clear: the intelligence community has a lot of blood on its hands and left to its own devices can absolutely wreck havoc in the world and at home.

Lot of great variables in this show.
This post was edited on 4/27/20 at 1:36 am
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45381 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 1:37 am to
quote:

shunned by his own people at the same time?

Don’t understand how you arrived there.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45381 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 1:42 am to
quote:

Everything she does, everything, is becuase she never looses sight of whats important.

This is the crux of everything to me.

She got into this realm to prevent disaster. A nuclear war between the US and Pakistan based on a lie is a disaster. THAT was what’s important. NOT Russia. NOT a valuable asset. NOT her own standing.

She never lost sight of that when everyone else did, including Saul.
Posted by Jinglebob
Member since Jan 2020
948 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 1:42 am to
The show had its ups and downs but finished much stronger than most that run for 6+ seasons.

Carrie replacing the Instructor as the CIA's highest level Russian asset is much more believable than moving to Oregon to be a lumberjack.

Life is a circle, or something.

I feel like this is the end of an era, not just for Homeland but for quality premium cable series. Now we just have lame Netflix nostalgia and copycat series. With Bosch being the exception.

After giving up on Homeland midway through season 3 I'm glad I picked it back up.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45381 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 1:43 am to
quote:

She fills out a dress nicely and she can be attractive in certain settings.

She cleans up well.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45381 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 1:59 am to
Question: I’ve only watched this season. I plan on watching the series from the beginning now. People say repeatedly that the show fell off in the middle. Are there seasons that I should skip and can do so with no real loss? Or should I just slog through some bad seasons because I have to for the whole story?
Posted by Paedin
Tampa, Florida
Member since Apr 2012
2290 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 3:31 am to
It’s all part of the story, I’d say watch them all. It makes the great seasons even more appreciated.
Posted by skeeter531
Member since Jun 2014
2409 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 6:29 am to
I agree with much of what has been said in favor of the ending. However, I just think it's laughable that Yevgeny or the Russian government would trust Carrie enough to ever let her out of their sight for a moment.

I did like the f-you to the CIA.

And I loved Saul's comment to the new president, "Don't be the 2nd schmuck in 20 years to get us into a (help me out, what word did he use?? unnecessary? phony?) war" F-you to Bush there (or maybe he used the phrase "under false pretenses"...will have to rewatch.
This post was edited on 4/27/20 at 6:37 am
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