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re: Homeland Season 6 Thread (Spoilers)
Posted on 4/3/17 at 7:01 pm to dallastiger55
Posted on 4/3/17 at 7:01 pm to dallastiger55
When I saw Quinn act like a monkey, I thought it was all over he was completely gone, but then he beat the crap out of Dar's hit team guy and I thought maybe he is back to badass Quinn.
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Posted on 4/3/17 at 7:13 pm to cas4t
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I think Dar wasn't in the loop on the propaganda machine guys building a case against Quinn. I get the impression he actually appreciates Quinn, and doesn't want to frick him over; or he just doesn't need to, so why do it?
Remember when he saw Quinn's pic on the laptop? He is digging in to see if these guys are gonna try to use and abuse Quinn, and through Max's findings, it seems they are doing just that.
If you remember when Quinn busted into his house and Dar called the assassin, the assassin alluded to Dar being overruled by the others. So in short, there is a conspiracy and it kinda appears as though the new Attorney General is also in on it.
Dar seems to want to force the President Elect to resign but it looks like the others are willing to kill her. Since Dar is more or less the public face of the operation (at least to our knowledge), it's pretty obvious that he would be the one to take the fall if the assassination occurs.
So Dar is doing his own covert work to figure out what's happening and it seems fairly obvious that the other powers that be are trying setup Quinn in what looks to be an assassination attempt on the President-Elect.
How is Dar going to play this out? Is he going to repent and try to save the President, Quinn, Carrie? Are they going to believe him? Oh my gosh...stay tuned.
Posted on 4/3/17 at 7:57 pm to blowmeauburn
Isn't the Dar the head of the CIA?
What's his and Sauls official role again?
Could Saul be the president elects pick for Sec of Defense
What's his and Sauls official role again?
Could Saul be the president elects pick for Sec of Defense
Posted on 4/4/17 at 1:22 am to dallastiger55
Welp, that was at least the third time Carrie's been blown up.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:31 am to blowmeauburn
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If you remember when Quinn busted into his house and Dar called the assassin, the assassin alluded to Dar being overruled by the others. So in short, there is a conspiracy and it kinda appears as though the new Attorney General is also in on it. Dar seems to want to force the President Elect to resign but it looks like the others are willing to kill her. Since Dar is more or less the public face of the operation (at least to our knowledge), it's pretty obvious that he would be the one to take the fall if the assassination occurs. So Dar is doing his own covert work to figure out what's happening and it seems fairly obvious that the other powers that be are trying setup Quinn in what looks to be an assassination attempt on the President-Elect.
Good job, all of this makes sense now.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 1:01 pm to dallastiger55
quote:from Reddit:
I guess theres no way he makes a big recovery by next season is there? im guessing this is permanent
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The creator of the show gave an interview last week about their decision to not kill Quinn last season and to play out his brain damage this year. He said that the team spent a lot of time studying the affects of cerebral hemorrhage and found that it affects everyone differently. He specifically said something along the lines of; some people recover quickly, some can takes months or even years to recover, some don't recover at all, and others can recover to the point where they're all there some days, but not all there others.
So if Quinn makes it through this season, I expect he'll be back next year looking a lot more like his old self. Already to me, it seems like Quinn has gotten better from Episode 1 til now... if the break between this and next season is a year or even more? Well I think they could definitely get away with a fully recovered Quinn. Maybe a few lasting affects, but nothing like this season.
And really, I only see two options for them. They either have to kill him off (which would seem a bit strange to kill him now when they had a much better opportunity with the gas last season), or to have him fully recovered. I don't think they can get away with another full season of brain damaged Quinn. I just don't really see what more they could do with that storyline that they haven't already done this season.
And when I say the break between seasons, I don't mean actual time. I'm talking about how much time will pass in-universe
Posted on 4/6/17 at 12:48 am to blowmeauburn
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If you remember when Quinn busted into his house and Dar called the assassin, the assassin alluded to Dar being overruled by the others. So in short, there is a conspiracy and it kinda appears as though the new Attorney General is also in on it.
Dar seems to want to force the President Elect to resign but it looks like the others are willing to kill her. Since Dar is more or less the public face of the operation (at least to our knowledge), it's pretty obvious that he would be the one to take the fall if the assassination occurs.
So Dar is doing his own covert work to figure out what's happening and it seems fairly obvious that the other powers that be are trying setup Quinn in what looks to be an assassination attempt on the President-Elect.
How is Dar going to play this out? Is he going to repent and try to save the President, Quinn, Carrie? Are they going to believe him? Oh my gosh...stay tuned.
Exactly. Dar is part of a Kabal but he's not the leader. They decided to take out Quinn without him. They're now trying to frame him as well?
Are they gonna whack the president and just hope all this gets covered up?
And Dar is deputy CIA director I believe, and/or Interim Director.
Posted on 4/6/17 at 12:53 am to KosmoCramer
And holy shite, this season turned on a dime 4 episodes ago. 
Posted on 4/6/17 at 7:05 am to KosmoCramer
yeah it did. I dont know what it is, but ive always had a soft spot for Homeland. Its still a top 5 show for me. I just love the characters and the narrative. The acting is top notch, notably Dar and Sal.
Posted on 4/6/17 at 10:59 am to KosmoCramer
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And holy shite, this season turned on a dime 4 episodes ago.
Really??? I haven't watched the last 2 or three episodes. They ruined Quinn, one of my all-time favoriite TV characters. They should have had Carrie gassed. Think of all the opportinitirs for her to ugly cry face.
It seemed like the theme of the season was that Muslims are good US Government bad. Oh and Iran isn't really bad!!
Then this morning I see Mandy Patinkin go on a rant against tertorist nation refugee restrictions.
I want to TV to entertain me; not attempt to shape my political opinions. I have the Poli Board for that.
This post was edited on 4/6/17 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 4/6/17 at 11:36 am to HaveMercy
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I haven't watched the last 2 or three episodes.
stop typing so much, watch the show, and come back. Thanks.
Posted on 4/6/17 at 12:03 pm to cas4t
It sounds from the comments here, it might have shaped up - I wasn't sure - that's why I said I haven't watched the last few; but I didn't like what I've seen thus far.
Posted on 4/6/17 at 1:31 pm to HaveMercy
It's gotten MUCH better over the last 4 episodes or so.
Posted on 4/6/17 at 1:50 pm to HaveMercy
this show probably isn't for you if you don't like the main character.
Posted on 4/6/17 at 3:58 pm to cas4t
To be fair, she is an ugly crier and I hate the bipolar depression angle of her character.
But it's a solid, slow burn show.
But it's a solid, slow burn show.
Posted on 4/6/17 at 9:54 pm to cas4t
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this show probably isn't for you if you don't like the main character.
When did I say that I didn't like the main character?? She has an ugly cry face and her central character flaw is her mental disorder. I happen to think that would play better with the Sarin gas side effects. Think of the angle with Franny. As is, they are going with a custody angle - imagine that with Carrie dealing with the gas effects.
Quinn needs to be Quinn. Bottom line - his storyline is painful to watch - and not in a good way.
Posted on 4/6/17 at 10:01 pm to HaveMercy
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ugly cry face
Have all the lost IMDB'ers swooped down on this thread? I am so sick of hearing that characterization, which pops up in every post about Carrie, as people love to repeat it for some reason I don't understand. No one looks especially "pretty" when they cry, FFS. In fact, Carrie looks scarily realistic when she cries. If you want to complain about something, bitch about how often she cries, which is a bit excessive to say the least.
Posted on 4/6/17 at 10:32 pm to Spock's Eyebrow
LOL - I watched My So-called Life and the actress cried a lot in that show - and there wasn't anything weird about her crying. In Homeland she cries over-the-top; and like you mention it's excessive - hence the criticism.
Posted on 4/6/17 at 10:40 pm to HaveMercy
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In Homeland she cries over-the-top
I don't find it over-the-top at all in light of her underlying condition. Again, I'll just say I find it scarily realistic and leave it at that. The problem is that she cries so often and so easily, it's hard to take her seriously as a CIA agent much less section chief.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 1:08 am to Spock's Eyebrow
This thread just gets better and better.
Almost as entertaining as the show.
I don't see Quinn ever being fully recovered. Wouldn't shock me if he was killed off, but it would suck. Bad.
O'Keefe and the propaganda machine are setting Quinn up to be the patsy for the assassination attempt on the President Elect. That's what Max was uncovering in the laptop. If you can't pick up on that, you should pay closer attention or maybe watch something a little less cerebral.
Why the frick did Carrie not call the President Elect's Cos back immediately after she saw Quinn was OK after the bomb. That's a higher priority than checking for survivors at that point IMO.
Also, the CoS was an idiot for blowing Carrie off when she called and said it was an emergency. But I guess it has to okay out like that for the assassination attempt this week.
All in all its still one of the top shows in TV. No other show is as unpredictable in that you never know who might get killed off at any time. I hope Max doesn't get killed. But he sure did make a jump from Rain Man in the early seasons to super spy.
I can't believe the show hasn't built up enough good will with viewership that a few slow character and story setup episodes at the beginning has people writing it off.
That paper chase doe.
Almost as entertaining as the show.
I don't see Quinn ever being fully recovered. Wouldn't shock me if he was killed off, but it would suck. Bad.
O'Keefe and the propaganda machine are setting Quinn up to be the patsy for the assassination attempt on the President Elect. That's what Max was uncovering in the laptop. If you can't pick up on that, you should pay closer attention or maybe watch something a little less cerebral.
Why the frick did Carrie not call the President Elect's Cos back immediately after she saw Quinn was OK after the bomb. That's a higher priority than checking for survivors at that point IMO.
Also, the CoS was an idiot for blowing Carrie off when she called and said it was an emergency. But I guess it has to okay out like that for the assassination attempt this week.
All in all its still one of the top shows in TV. No other show is as unpredictable in that you never know who might get killed off at any time. I hope Max doesn't get killed. But he sure did make a jump from Rain Man in the early seasons to super spy.
I can't believe the show hasn't built up enough good will with viewership that a few slow character and story setup episodes at the beginning has people writing it off.
That paper chase doe.
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