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re: Have we discussed Jordan Peeles overtly racist statements?

Posted on 3/28/19 at 1:25 pm to
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 3/28/19 at 1:25 pm to
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Plenty of conversation on the Poli Board. This will get moved there.
The poli board went for low hanging fruit (As they usually do) and pointed out that Peele has a white wife and biracial children. Which has nothing to do with the statement. But somehow they believe that gives them ammunition in this discussion.
Posted by ManBearTiger
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Posted on 3/28/19 at 1:26 pm to
The only problem i have with this story is the media's hypocrisy. Peele is the creator of his work and I respect his career output enough to comfortably compartmentalize my appreciation for his work and the questionable quality of his irrelevant rhetoric.
Posted by 225bred
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Posted on 3/28/19 at 1:26 pm to
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Yep, but the ones defending his statements are racists, so it is to be expected.



Yep, I'm not surprised by it, I just like pointing out this board being full of shite as usual.
Posted by IlikeyouBetty
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Posted on 3/28/19 at 1:27 pm to
I guess I should be outraged, as a middle aged white dude, but I'm just not. I don't have the energy to get bent out of shape about stuff like this. The quicker we all realize that comments like this will be tolerated from the black community, whilst being condemned from the white community the quicker we can get on with our lives. This is a fact of our society that will not be changed for perhaps 10s of generations or longer. Move on.
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 3/28/19 at 1:27 pm to
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The only problem i have with this story is the media's hypocrisy. Peele is the creator of his work and I respect his career output enough to comfortably compartmentalize my appreciation for his work and the questionable quality of his irrelevant rhetoric.


Honestly, I couldn’t care less what he said, but as long as a single standard for statements like these exists, then I will apply that standard to all similar comments.

Those who do not are racists.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 3/28/19 at 1:28 pm to
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Yep, I'm not surprised by it, I just like pointing out this board being full of shite as usual.


You can’t get enough of us baby
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 3/28/19 at 1:31 pm to
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Well we've seen backlash when the idea of having a black actor in a certain role is discussed (Ex. The Sony leaked emails).

You'll have to refresh my recollection. White people were up in arms about Sony casting a black dude in a white role? I know that has bandied about with regard to James Bond to a degree. Even on here. And while I get the outrage, let's be honest, James Bond is no longer In Fleming's James Bond. He's morphed into an action (borderline super-) hero and has seen so many iterations that his skin color is really no longer an issue.

But all that is more to my point: black writers need to get stuff written so black actors are natural fits in the lead roles. Saying "I don't see myself casting black/white actors in a lead role," isn't by itself racist. It's acknowledging that you don't have anything genuine to write/direct when someone of a certain race is cast. Because you have no perspective on it. I could never write and direct Do The Right Thing and that movie could never star a white dude. That doesn't mean Spike Lee is racist. Just means he writes what he knows. And makes a classic movie. That I think is dogshit, but I digress.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 3/28/19 at 1:31 pm to
He's pointing out the fact that horror stories with white male leads have been done time and time again. That's not a false statement.

On the opposite end, he's pretty much the first director that I know of that has been given a big budget to make horror films with a majority black cast.
Posted by Geauxboy
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Posted on 3/28/19 at 1:31 pm to
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What's the problem?


He literally posted the problem in his OP. It's the actual basis for his OP. But, you know this.
Posted by Hoodoo Man
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Posted on 3/28/19 at 1:32 pm to
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I could never write and direct Do The Right Thing and that movie could never star a white dude. That doesn't mean Spike Lee is racist.
Well, not on its own.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 3/28/19 at 1:36 pm to
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You'll have to refresh my recollection. White people were up in arms about Sony casting a black dude in a white role? I know that has bandied about with regard to James Bond to a degree. Even on here. And while I get the outrage, let's be honest, James Bond is no longer In Fleming's James Bond. He's morphed into an action (borderline super-) hero and has seen so many iterations that his skin color is really no longer an issue.

Emails were leaked about Idris Elba playing James Bond and the studios were largely against the idea.

On a different level, Spiderman fanboys weren't too happy when Donald Glover expressed that he wanted to play the role a few years back. I remember Reddit admins deleting some of the comments made on their platform from the discussion because it immediately went racial.

Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 3/28/19 at 1:37 pm to
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He's pointing out the fact that horror stories with white male leads have been done time and time again. That's not a false statement.
True or false, it makes no difference.

There is a standard that exists for individuals who make comments like this in regards to race and casting.

If it has a certain treatment one way, then it should be treated the exact same way from the other direction as well.
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On the opposite end, he's pretty much the first director that I know of that has been given a big budget to make horror films with a majority black cast.

And that is great.

The best way to avoid this is to not make stupid comments like this.

As I stated, whatever the response would be when a director of another race says this about casting a black lead, the response here should be the exact same.

Otherwise, you are a racist who believes in treating a person differently based solely on their skin color.
Posted by John Gotti
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Posted on 3/28/19 at 1:39 pm to
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White wife






woof - $12M doesn't go as far as it used to.
Posted by 225bred
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Posted on 3/28/19 at 1:40 pm to
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woof - $12M doesn't go as far as it used to.



Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 3/28/19 at 1:41 pm to
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Well, not on its own.



fair.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
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Posted on 3/28/19 at 1:41 pm to
isn't he black?
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 3/28/19 at 1:43 pm to
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As I stated, whatever the response would be when a director of another race says this about casting a black lead, the response here should be the exact same.

Otherwise, you are a racist who believes in treating a person differently based solely on their skin color.


What if my response is that the white guy saying the same thing isn't racist and that the "standard" is bullshite?
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
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Posted on 3/28/19 at 1:43 pm to
White people never needed to say this. They just did it.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
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Posted on 3/28/19 at 1:44 pm to
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What if my response is that the white guy saying the same thing isn't racist and that the "standard" is bullshite?

Then we completely agree.

But that isn’t the standard.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 3/28/19 at 1:46 pm to
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True or false, it makes no difference.

It certainly makes a difference in this situation.

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And that is great.

The best way to avoid this is to not make stupid comments like this.

As I stated, whatever the response would be when a director of another race says this about casting a black lead, the response here should be the exact same.

Otherwise, you are a racist who believes in treating a person differently based solely on their skin color.
I don't think Jordan Peele is racist. But I do think he's pointing out the fact that it's good to finally have the financial backing for films that otherwise wouldn't be made or at the minimum would likely get the Tyler Perry rubber stamp.

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