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re: Halo Season 2 Paramount+ (Spoilers)
Posted on 2/25/24 at 2:08 pm to GoGators1995
Posted on 2/25/24 at 2:08 pm to GoGators1995
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Kind of a head scratcher that Cortana was left behind. Unless Ackerman just hates everything related to Halsey.
I assumed it was on purpose. He seems to be a turncoat of some type(i know zero about the lore other than the alien fricks are just after some cool antiques of theirs and will kill entire planets to find them)
Also the lady gaga alien sympathizer seems miscast.
But really do enjoy the show. Master Chief is a badass. Loved the form tackle he made on invisilizard
Posted on 2/25/24 at 2:44 pm to YumYum Sauce
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I assumed it was on purpose. He seems to be a turncoat of some type(i know zero about the lore other than the alien fricks are just after some cool antiques of theirs and will kill entire planets to find them)
Also the lady gaga alien sympathizer seems miscast.
But really do enjoy the show. Master Chief is a badass. Loved the form tackle he made on invisilizard
I don't know much about Ackerman because I think he's only a character in the books. Don't remember him from the main game timeline.
Lady Gaga is a character created solely for the show. And the whole Rubble plot with Soren and Kwan.
Also I wonder if TV show Keyes survived.
I don't want to spoil too much if you haven't played the main games but the Covenant sees humanity as "heretics" and wants to wipe them out. At least on the surface.
This post was edited on 2/25/24 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 2/25/24 at 3:17 pm to YumYum Sauce
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Also the lady gaga alien sympathizer seems miscast.
The new writers had a lot to unfrick, im pretty sure (well I hope) that this loose end will get dealth with this season.
Posted on 2/25/24 at 4:13 pm to 50_Tiger
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The new writers had a lot to unfrick, im pretty sure (well I hope) that this loose end will get dealth with this season.
She was shot and considered dead at the end of last season. If anything they purposely kept her in there.
Posted on 2/25/24 at 4:23 pm to Esquire
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BUT, Paramount actually listened to feedback and fired the creative team behind season 1 and hired a new show runner that is a Halo fan
Hope for those watching that this is true. I won't be one of them. And I'm betting not many here played more HALO back in the day.
Fall of Reach.
Forward until Dawn...
The franchise had a great foundation. Lots of source material. Don't see how they fricked it up so bad, but hope they can find their way back.
Posted on 2/25/24 at 9:07 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
quote:My son and I were discussing this. He played Halo and is incensed, I didn't and find it intriguing.
Hope for those watching that this is true. I won't be one of them. And I'm betting not many here played more HALO back in the day.
Which boils down to this, and honestly this goes for a lot of the new shows that piss people off:
if it's just a random sci fi (in this case) show, it's ok. I can roll my eyes and overlook the gay moments. I wouldn't have to roll my eyes if they didn't crank up the kissing for the sake of it. The rest is pretty decent.
It's just NOT HALO.
Same with Rings of Power; if it's a random fantasy, it's pretty solid, with great visuals. It just ain't Tolkien.
I don't really get why they have to attach the name, unless it's the only way it gets funded... which, if true, sucks for getting shows out.
Andor really is the only new show that was really good no matter what, that was successfully shoehorned into a big name IP. It would have been brilliant either way, as a standalone it's fantastic. It adds depth and mature themes to Star Wars.
All the rest of these shows, and I kinda assume that includes the Star Trek shows on Paramount, are solid enough to start a different franchise, but they don't mesh with the existing one.
Posted on 2/25/24 at 9:34 pm to Scoob
S1 was pretty bad and the show runners even admitted that they didn't play any of the games. And for a lot of people Master Chief is like Judge Dredd in that his helmet should never come off.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 4:33 am to Scoob
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It's just NOT HALO.
It just ain't Tolkien.
But they try and tell us that it IS, and if you're not onboard, you're the problem, not them.
See, they specifically choose these iconic franchises because of the built-in audiences. They feel the hard work has already been done, and they can just rubber stamp anything with the known brand logo and the praise & money will follow.
Doesn't work that way.
quote:
Same with Rings of Power; if it's a random fantasy, it's pretty solid, with great visuals.
Yeah, about that...
Ya might wanna take a closer look.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 6:18 am to GoGators1995
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Kind of a head scratcher that Cortana was left behind. Unless Ackerman just hates everything related to Halsey.
I can understand a lot of the divergences from established lore in the books and games, but this one really is inexplicable. Nothing is more sacred to the USNC or ONI in this universe than the Cole Protocol.
They only reason for him to knowingly leave Cortana behind, knowing the covenant were already on the planet, would be if he wants them to find Earth.
In the books or the games, as soon as the covenant were detected in the entire system all AI or any anything with a Starmap would have been immediately taken offline and secured. The only AI still online would have been segregated defense AI for MAC gun targeting.
This post was edited on 2/26/24 at 6:48 am
Posted on 2/26/24 at 12:49 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
quote:You're right to an extent, but I think the bigger problem remains-quote:
It's just NOT HALO.
It just ain't Tolkien.
But they try and tell us that it IS, and if you're not onboard, you're the problem, not them.
you're not getting greenlit from the studio unless you are diving into a known property.
I think we'd all love a variety of shows to come out in a genre, and not be anything specifically tied to a known story. A new one would be great.
quote:
]Same with Rings of Power; if it's a random fantasy, it's pretty solid, with great visuals.
Yeah, about that...[/quote]So you posted one guy in full plate armor with ringmail under, and another guy wearing a chestpiece.
Did you look at the work they put into Adar and the Orcs; and remind yourself this is a TV show, not a movie?
Or Durin and the Dwarves
I'm not going to debate whether the story is good or not. I'm talking about visuals, production values. That shite is great. I want that fricking hammer
That's kinda what we're looking at with HALO... it's clearly not 'correct' to the story, so why make it. But a lot of the visuals are looking good.
Either keep looking good, and be accurate so fans have something to enjoy;
or look good, but not a straight copy: and call it something else, and make whatever story you have envisioned. Because who knows, maybe people will like your tale too, and it then gets it's own place in the genre. Like Star Wars --> BSG. Lots of similarities, but they didn't try to shoehorn BSG into SW.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 2:22 pm to Scoob
The orcs are paler than I am. Nice generic fantasy monsters, I suppose, but don't tell me these are Tolkien orcs. And for every OK still of an orc you toss up, I can find 5 or more really bad examples of Numenorean or Elvish gear, and don't get me started on 2nd Age Elvish high fades or the Salon Selectives hairstyle of Celebrimbor.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 3:24 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
quote:It's personal preference. Jackson's Uruk-Hai aren't Tolkien either, people just thought they looked cool.
The orcs are paler than I am. Nice generic fantasy monsters, I suppose, but don't tell me these are Tolkien orcs
quote:
They were faster than normal Orcs and could travel during the day without being weakened. They were not only faster but smarter, stronger and larger, though they were still shorter than Men.
So they weren't supposed to be nearly that tall. Ugluk in the movies was taller than Aragorn, who was supposed to be tall among Men.
quote:Agreed there
don't get me started on 2nd Age Elvish high fades or the Salon Selectives hairstyle of Celebrimbor.
What bothered me even more than the hairstyles, is the age/appearance. Tolkien never actually wrote that Elves have pointy "Spock" ears, it's again just something that people have grown to assume due to Jackson. But the reality is that Elves looked like Men, other than that they were fairer (more attractive), and they didn't get old or fall sick. So every single Elf should look no older than 30- full maturity but still youthful, muscled but not bulky, tall etc. For practical purposes, Elves are WRITTEN to be eye candy .
Celebrimbor, as grandson of Feanor, should have looked like a superstar. And as a (THE) Noldor, should have had dark hair.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 3:43 pm to Scoob
Can we create a separate thread for the LoTR talk?
Posted on 2/26/24 at 4:16 pm to TigerFanatic99
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Can we create a separate thread for the LoTR talk?
HALO, same issue. This is a pretty well-made sci-fi series, dealing with genetically augmented super-soldiers who are the only competent option to face an advanced alien foe intent on eliminating human colonies throughout the galaxy. The visuals have been well-done. There are some interesting subplots, as well as some dumb and unnecessarily inserted social agendas.
But it's not HALO, not to those who already knew and loved that.
Why not change a few names, craft the suits a bit different, and just call it something else?
Would it be too close in concept, and get slapped down in lawsuits?
Would it be too risky for the studios to go with an unknown, saying viewers won't give something new a try?
I do laugh how they've dug out the Starship Troopers gear again. That stuff will last longer than surplus guns from WW2 in the movies.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 9:52 pm to TigerFanatic99
Agreed. Halo is due. I veered off course.
Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:35 pm to Scoob
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Why not change a few names, craft the suits a bit different, and just call it something else?
you do realize the point of making a show based off the Halo series is that you get MILLIONS of fans before the show even comes out right?
the whole point of the show is to sell Paramount+ subscriptions. You are gonna get way less people signing up to check out "generic sci-fi show" than fricking Halo, one of the most successful franchises of all time with millions of players over the past 20 years
Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:48 pm to Corinthians420
quote:No, I understand that fully. And as such, they should have followed HALO's established canon and lore... which, combined with the visuals, would have made this a big hit.quote:
Why not change a few names, craft the suits a bit different, and just call it something else?
you do realize the point of making a show based off the Halo series is that you get MILLIONS of fans before the show even comes out right?
the whole point of the show is to sell Paramount+ subscriptions. You are gonna get way less people signing up to check out "generic sci-fi show" than fricking Halo, one of the most successful franchises of all time with millions of players over the past 20 years
Instead, they decided to make something different, antagonizing the preset fan base and negating that advantage.
So like I said, why go off the course and still call it HALO? If you have this burning desire to tell the story YOU want (and it doesn't fit this IP), why not sell the idea to someone who will fund you, and you have a completely clean slate to work with? It's still a futuristic action SF show, someone would have likely picked it up.
The point I'm making is, if you get a job within an established IP, the obvious correct choice is to follow canon and lore. If that's not for you, then make your own show premise.
It's not like a disappointing show with angry fans is going to boost your career, so there's really no reason to veer off course here.
Posted on 2/27/24 at 9:13 pm to Scoob
have they really gone that far off course? we haven't even gotten to the beginning of the first game yet. Reach was a prequel and one death changes things some but it wasn't an irreplaceable character (in terms of screen time in the games).
I'm not sure how many fans of the games have read all the books, but I am definitely ready for them to get to the Halo and for master chief to take over rather than getting bossed around by some punch bitches from HQ
I'm not sure how many fans of the games have read all the books, but I am definitely ready for them to get to the Halo and for master chief to take over rather than getting bossed around by some punch bitches from HQ
This post was edited on 2/27/24 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 2/29/24 at 2:55 pm to Corinthians420
The latest episode didn't help you with that
Posted on 2/29/24 at 3:42 pm to jmarto1
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The latest episode didn't help you with that
i specifically didn't watch this weeks episode to see if it was a bunch of Kwan and boo hooing about Reach.
i'll probably hold off for 3 weeks before i watch and then binge.
I think the falling action and space politics isn't unmerited but weekly releases as opposed to dumps is a mistake
This post was edited on 2/29/24 at 3:44 pm
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