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re: Gunn no longer running DC Studios.

Posted on 11/10/26 at 4:53 pm to
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 4:53 pm to
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Gunn’s “Superman,” starring David Corenswet — the duo’s first big swing as bosses — was touted as a hit with $618 million against a $225 million budget. Those ticket sales were promising enough, given the general decline in popularity of comic book movies. But they didn’t necessarily signal the kind of lasting enthusiasm that spawns an interconnected universe. Momentum all but evaporated with July’s money-loser “Supergirl,” which flopped with $126 million globally against a $170 million budget. And while October’s “Clayface” performed modestly with $109 million against a $44 million budget, sources suggest the body-horror thriller won’t break even until the studio factors in downstream revenues.

Insiders have raised eyebrows at Gunn and Safran’s decision to focus on lesser-known characters, like Superman’s cousin Kara El-Zor, aka Supergirl, and the Batman villain Clayface, rather than building out the franchise with marquee names. Although superhero movies have been hit or miss, the ones that spotlight notable characters can still pack a box-office punch. July’s “Spider-Man: Brand New Day” became the third-biggest movie in history with $2.5 billion, and December’s “Avengers: Endgame,” which brings back just about all of Earth’s Mightiest Heroes, could challenge the web-slinging Marvel sequel’s box office records.

“The industry has taken away the wrong lessons from Marvel’s success,” a studio insider tells Variety. “Higher budgets don’t equal quality storytelling.”

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The pair will remain involved with DC, though with less authority. Gunn is directing next summer’s “Superman: Man of Tomorrow,” and the two are producing the 2027 television series “The People v. Gorilla Grodd,” with Skyler Gisondo as his “Superman” character Jimmy Olsen and Jimmy Tatro as Gorilla Grodd, and another season of “Creature Commandos.”

It’s unclear what will become of Gunn and Safran’s decade-long creative strategy of sequels, spinoffs and stand-alone stories.

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Internally, there’s hope that Latcham — an executive who helped shape the MCU — will get back to basics with DC.

“Jeremy is the kind of guy who would go to Comic-Con to get an autograph from someone,” says another source, “not someone who wants to be there signing autographs.”



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Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 5:26 pm to
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 5:46 pm to
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DC Studios Exit: James Gunn and Peter Safran Spent Big, Lost Money and Didn't Hook Audiences

When variety writes this headline you know you messed up
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 6:00 pm to
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Didn't even realize that they played themselves by portraying a white-dominated world as ideal. No one who watched that season would honestly come away thinking, "you know what? I actually prefer our world to that one."


Really? a fictional world that placed any and everyone who isn't white in concentration camps. And you believe no one would prefer our world over that world? That is just idiotic.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 6:07 pm to
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It's just impossible to explain Superman without the obvious midwestern Christian influence. The entire point is this is a super-powered alien who is good solely because he was raised with sound, conservative, Christian fundamentals


I would say Gunn absolutely nailed Superman's character. There's nothing inherently Christian or Conservative about Superman. He's just a man with God-like powers, who doesn't see himself as a God. He is simply, a good person with a pure heart who wants to help and protect others. Gunn nailed all of that.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 6:21 pm to
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There's nothing inherently Christian or Conservative about Superman.
Christian, I am not sure

But conservative?

Nothing inherently conservative about the guy who was raised on a farm in Smallville, Kansas to Ma and Pa Kent?

Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 6:25 pm to
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Nothing inherently conservative about the guy who was raised on a farm in Smallville, Kansas to Ma and Pa Kent?


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who wants to help and protect others


Helping the community at large? Everybody just taking handouts from Superman.
Posted by Godzilla jr
Member since Sep 2025
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 6:54 pm to
No shite. Marvel is doing an Avengers movie with Doom as the main villain. Meanwhile James Gunn was talking about doing a polka dot man show.

It’s clear he was in over his head and didn’t have a clue
This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 6:54 pm
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 6:57 pm to
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
18067 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 7:08 pm to
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Nothing inherently conservative about the guy who was raised on a farm in Smallville, Kansas to Ma and Pa Kent?


Correct. The political leanings of the Kents are irrelevant. Them being genuinely good people who raised a young alien boy to fall in love with humanity is the important part.
Posted by JohnnyMackBrown
Member since Nov 2026
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 7:40 pm to
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If Gunn had taken what he had done with Superman, and also done it with:

Batman
Wonder Woman
Flash
Green Lantern
Nightwing
etc etc etc

He would still be in charge

But instead he was like I am going to make a Superman movie and then all of these weird projects


Yeah its just so bizarre. I think you need decision makers to make the decisions about what to make and creative types to produce the media. You cant make give creative types the keys
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 7:54 pm to
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I would say Gunn absolutely nailed Superman's character. There's nothing inherently Christian or Conservative about Superman. He's just a man with God-like powers, who doesn't see himself as a God. He is simply, a good person with a pure heart who wants to help and protect others. Gunn nailed all of that.


Thank you for proving that you, too, should have nothing to do with writing a Superman anything.
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 7:56 pm to
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it's being reported that Latcham was in talks to take over while Paramount was buying WB, so anything Ellison said or promised while taking over Warner can be dismissed. He knew he was firing Gunn while he said he was keeping him.



This is...bad?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 8:00 pm to
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Helping the community at large? Everybody just taking handouts from Superman.


You do understand that conservatives help the community personally, and liberals vote for the government to take from others to help the community.

Right? You do know that's the difference, surely. We don't have to explain that here in this thread?
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 8:05 pm to
The wheels were in motion about a month ago while Gunn and Safran thought they were safe

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Posted by Scoob
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 8:41 pm to
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Maybe this is a hot take but DC needs to stop trying to make a shared universe happen. You don’t need to be Marvel. No DCU, no DCEU, just use your stacked roster to tell good stories and make great one-off films.


What's crazy is, if you do a couple good one-offs and they work, you can absolutely do a shared universe. That's how Marvel opened.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 8:44 pm to
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Helping the community at large? Everybody just taking handouts from Superman.



Encapsulation of a backwards mind
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 8:46 pm to
Ellison isn’t so conservative after all. Seems he’s pro-Gunn control!


Ha!

Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 9:14 pm to
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would say Gunn absolutely nailed Superman's character. There's nothing inherently Christian or Conservative about Superman. He's just a man with God-like powers, who doesn't see himself as a God. He is simply, a good person with a pure heart who wants to help and protect others.



He's a defender of good societal norms and a metaphor for Christ the Lion

You can choose to view him in a secular fashion but you lose a bunch of deeper allegory.

His fiercest opponent is a prideful intellect named Luthor. Of course some iterations villanize Lex for his greed which an acceptable criticism for both modern progressives and traditional Christianity.
Posted by Revorising
Member since Jan 2013
1383 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 9:33 pm to
Or a Jimmy Olsen and Gorilla Grodd TV series…. Fool no one wants that dog Sh**. Stick to the IP that made/makes the brand famous.

Supergirl did not earn her own movie before Batman or WW….. what were they thinking???

I did like Superman but it could have been a bit darker …. So in between MOS and this version of Superman is my happy place with the character……
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