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Posted on 8/7/09 at 9:19 am to
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 8/7/09 at 9:19 am to
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ETA: Weren't Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs in the top 10 of our best movies poll? Hitchcock's probably the only guy with more than that. I don't really remember the top 10, so just guessing.



Pulp Fiction was, Reservoir Dogs was right outside I think.
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 8/7/09 at 9:47 am to

Tarantino is sort of like Orson Welles: brilliant start and then failed to live up to the promise. Welles made two brilliant movies (and starred in another – The Third Man is terrific), but he never really lived up to what he could have been. Tarantino has had a decent movie seen Pulp Fiction (Jackie Brown), but he seems obsessed with coolness instead of making good movies.

And, Lord, do I hate Woody Allen.
Posted by constant cough
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Posted on 8/7/09 at 9:51 am to
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Tarantino is sort of like Orson Welles: brilliant start and then failed to live up to the promise. Welles made two brilliant movies (and starred in another – The Third Man is terrific), but he never really lived up to what he could have been. Tarantino has had a decent movie seen Pulp Fiction (Jackie Brown), but he seems obsessed with coolness instead of making good movies.




I disagree. Welles was not a one hit wonder.

Citizen Kane
The Magnificent Ambersons
The Stranger
The Lady from Shanghai
Mr. Arkadin
Touch of Evil
The Trial


Are all great 5 star movies IMO.


As well McBeth, F For Fake, Chimes at Midnight are pretty solid movies. Welles is truly one of the greats.


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And, Lord, do I hate Woody Allen.



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This post was edited on 8/7/09 at 9:56 am
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 8/7/09 at 9:56 am to
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I disagree. Welles was not a one hit wonder.


The Magnificent Ambersons
The Stranger
The Lady from Shanghai
Mr. Arkadin
Touch of Evil
The Trial


Going to agree with cough here. Welles had a great, although truncated career. The only person who made as consistently great and varied films as Welles was probably Kubrick, and maybe Wilder.

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Yeah, I'm no Allen fan either.
This post was edited on 8/7/09 at 10:03 am
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 8/7/09 at 9:58 am to
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Kubrick,


born in NYC

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True, but all of his great films were made in the UK. Kind of like Hitchcock, except the other way around.


then shouldn't at least 1 of the 2 count?
This post was edited on 8/7/09 at 10:01 am
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 8/7/09 at 9:59 am to
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And, Lord, do I hate Woody Allen.


Posted by BhamTigah
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Posted on 8/7/09 at 11:19 am to
Glad to see I'm not the only one who isn't a Woody Allen fan. I only brought him up because I know some people think he's a genious.

As for Tarentino, Pulp and RD are his best, but I enjoyed several others. He's far too young at this point to say he didn't live up to his promise. Kinda like people who judge a redshirt freshman as a bust because he hasn't contributed.
This post was edited on 8/7/09 at 11:21 am
Posted by SJS Eagle 85
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Posted on 8/7/09 at 11:38 am to
Spielberg
Coen Brothers
Scorcese
Eastwood
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 8/7/09 at 12:28 pm to
scorsese - obvious reasons
terrance malick - if he would have done more films i think he'd be on a lot more list. but its hard to put him near the top bc of limited quantity.
eastwood - dude has directed a lot of movie. and looks like he's getting better.
coen - i like him bc he doesnt over do it. he doesnt have a movie every year so your pleasantly suprised when he has a movie come out. and there normally pretty awesome.
tarantino - im a fan. but i liked the kill bills. gotta give him some credit on sin city too.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 8/7/09 at 12:33 pm to
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Glad to see I'm not the only one who isn't a Woody Allen fan. I only brought him up because I know some people think he's a genious.


looks like the other way around for Allen so far. I think he is agreat humourist. Would not make my top 5 American directors, maybe top 10

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. He's far too young at this point to say he didn't live up to his promise. Kinda like people who judge a redshirt freshman as a bust because he hasn't contributed


Dogs came out in 92, that's almost 20 years ago. Fair to say QT has not lived up to the promise so far. Does not mean he can't bounce back, but it does not look good at this point.
Posted by constant cough
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Posted on 8/7/09 at 12:35 pm to
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coen - i like him bc he doesnt over do it. he doesnt have a movie every year so your pleasantly suprised when he has a movie come out. and there normally pretty awesome.



Coen Bros are the best directors today in Hollywood IMO.
Posted by tigermojo
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Posted on 8/7/09 at 12:36 pm to
What about directors like Michael Curtiz, according to imdb, he was born in Austria, but his films were all in the US.

He's got quite the impressive list, topped of course by Casablanca.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 8/7/09 at 12:42 pm to
Same for Elia Kazan, born in Constantinople, but worked in US.
Posted by tigermojo
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Posted on 8/7/09 at 12:48 pm to
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And, Lord, do I hate Woody Allen.


I don't hate Woody. Well, maybe since Crimes & Misdemeanors. But C&M is still one of my favorite films.
Posted by CenlaMikePA
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Posted on 8/7/09 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

Greatest American Director


Dawson Leary(from the Creek of the same name), he was always destined to be the greatest director of his generation.
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 8/7/09 at 2:51 pm to
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Greatest American Director


A few repeats and a couple new ones to to add:

Martin Scorsese
Francis Copola
John Huston
Steven Spielberg
Robert Altman
David Lynch
Orson Welles

Posted by magildachunks
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Posted on 8/7/09 at 3:19 pm to
No love for Peckinpah?


No, but seriously, I'd have to probably say:
Clint Eastwood
Mel Gibson
John Ford
John Carpenter (maybe? at least for horror?)
Posted by constant cough
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Posted on 8/7/09 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

No love for Peckinpah?



Good call. How the hell did I forget Peckinpah!
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 8/7/09 at 3:53 pm to
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Mel Gibson


Braveheart, a snuff film and Apocolypto do not get you on the list of great American directors.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 8/7/09 at 3:54 pm to
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Elia Kazan, born in Constantinople


When was he born, the 1300s?

As for Tarantino, I honestly don't think that he has put out a good film in 15 years. Obviously I haven't seen his latest film with Brad Pitt, but after a great start writing True Romance, and directing Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction, he hasn't really added anything of value. I'll go as far as saying that Jackie Brown is his only decent film since then.

I don't think it's premature to call a guy disappointing if he hasn't done anything substantial in 15 years.
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