re: GoT S7 E4 "The Spoils of War" MAESTERS Thread

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Well, I am assuming that all of season 8 will be in heavy snow conditions

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Yeah but the filming of S7 was pushed back to "film in wintery conditions" even though that hasn't been apparent in the episodes yet. Although it is a little wintery in the few scenes shown in the Riverlands I guess. Nothing that couldn't be achieved with snow machines.

Did anyone else pickup on the line about Arya and Jon that Sansa said?

"Jon was so happy to see me, his heart will probably stop when he sees you"

GoT has been all about foreshadowing. They wouldn't have nonchalantly used those words unless it meant something.

I know, but that just leaves it as a callback to Jon's resurrection and that seems weirdly out of place.

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perhaps what Varys is speaking of in the preview

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Or he could be referring to her torching the food and supplies that are desperately needed when it wasn't necessary. Politically, "the dragon queen burned all of the food" doesn't play very well.

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was basically called an idiot because surely I'd seen lakes where it goes from shallow to a deep drop off instantly.

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yep, except that wasnt a lake

it was a "river" or a creek I guess. It was fairly narrow, all things considered, and the water wasnt really moving that fast over fairly flat terrain. Experience tell you that's not a very deep cut, and probably no more than 10' deep at most.

Jamies fall looked more like a sci-fi dream sequence than a plunge into death's darkness

whatever, I'm sure they're both alive and ready for another "bend the knee" episode next week

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Rapiers beat broadswords when it comes to 1 on 1 combat. We're talking about a 2 ft length of fishing rod vs a 3 ft 2x4, and first good contact wins. You're not chopping anyone's head off with Needle, but you can skewer them and/or slice up their throat.


Nope.

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In point of killing the opponent, yep-
Brienne was landing kill shots, but Arya showed her she was going down too. First exchange, Brienne would have chopped Arya from clavicle to sternum, but had her jugular sliced open. Both dead.

Second exchange of note, Arya stabs Brienne in the left hand moments before getting kicked. Arya disarmed, Brienne is a bit handicapped with her blade, might have to swing 1 handed afterwards depending on what injury.

Last exchange, Brienne decapitates Arya but Arya slices Brienne's throat open. Both dead.

It's silly to over-analyze this too much, but both weapons and styles have advantages over the other. Arya was familiar with Brienne's approach in terms of what she was doing, just not at how skilled she was; and Brienne had no idea what Arya was doing. Getting close with a broadsword negates speed and favors bulk, so Brienne wasn't keeping distance. That cost her 3 times. I'm certain she learned more from Arya, than Arya did from her, in that exchange.

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Robin will not be a threat to anyone. He is a mindless, spineless boy who no one (hidden away in the Vale) and knows nothing (doesn't have a clue to how the real [ Westeros] world works).

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With the loyalty of his troops. Remember that his men, those who served under Royce their entire careers, were ready to kill Royce, when Littlefinger made it clear he was the one calling the shots.

So these look like Westoros soldiers joining team Dragon.



No Jamie or Bronn here though



Jon Targaryen getting an earful from one of his dragons.

I have a feeling that we're not going to see SweetRobin again.

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She's been trained by Syrio forrell,

for a couple weeks

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The Hound in a way,

for a couple weeks

i mean part of what Brienne/pod show is how much work, actual practice, it takes to get good at that stuff. it was also reference in season 1 when Renly and Loris were shaving Renly's chest hair off. Arya has lived far too solitarily to have any sort of real practice in fighting

it takes YEARS of intense, daily training to get to the level of a Brienne

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Then what's the magic number of additional episodes showing Arya training to satisfy your standards? Would it have been more realistic next season? I mean Jesus, we've already watched her go through 6 seasons of some form of training. It's a show, not real life. Obviously Arya's character was written to eventually reach this point of skill, so they're not going to dumb her down or write additional seasons just to make it a little closer to reality. The show is wrapping up, time to show the characters nearing their maximum potential. It's not as if they showed her fighting Brienne in season 1 after one training session with Syrio. They put a significant amount of air time into showing her training, but it's not good enough I suppose..