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re: GoT S7 E3 Thread: 'The Queen's Justice' Maester Thread
Posted on 7/31/17 at 8:53 am to SCLSUMuddogs
Posted on 7/31/17 at 8:53 am to SCLSUMuddogs
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Is she not? Seems like she would have more of a claim than her nephew
No, she isn't. When Aerys died the kingdom passed to Rhaegar, when he died it passed to his only living child, Jon Snow. The timelines are a little muddy though.
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 8:54 am to prplhze2000
Setting aside the Kingsguard issue, he is brother to her primary enemy, which seems to make a marriage unlikely.
I wonder if there is any chance for Cersei to have a kid. If she married Robert at ~18 and we are about 17 years past that she is still south of 40.
I wonder if there is any chance for Cersei to have a kid. If she married Robert at ~18 and we are about 17 years past that she is still south of 40.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 8:54 am to ladytiger118
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At this point Jaime knew Tyrion didn't do it but now he has official confirmation. I could see him reaching out to Tyrion now IMO.
I see it playing out as him telling Cersei and her not fully believing it and still blaming Tyrion for it.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 8:55 am to ladytiger118
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The seeds of doubt have already been planted and I think Olenna's confession and final parting thoughts will be nagging at Jaime from here on out.
I also think the Euron/Jamie dynamic is for more than just comic relief. Euron is working hard to displace Jamie and even though Cersei just tried to delay any advance in their relationship until after the war, after proving himself again taking out the Unsullied's ships, how long can she actually hold him off?
Posted on 7/31/17 at 8:56 am to TigerFanInSouthland
Wrong order there and the timeline is really clear. Rhaegar dies at the trident prior to Jaime killing Aerys. At that point Viserys would actually become the King with his brother dead.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 8:57 am to CorporateTiger
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I mean there are a couple of significant differences. The Mongols actually had a set of laws that allowed them to effectively rule over and integrate conquered people. The Dothraki seem to have basically none of that.
I suggest Dan Carlin's Warth of the Khans and Genghis Khan and the Making of the Modern Worldby Jack Weatherford to anyone interested in them.
The logistics of what they pulled off is insane. However, they still struggled hot/wet environments (south east Asian/Indian), islands (failed to invade Japan) and mountains ranges (Indian)
Posted on 7/31/17 at 8:57 am to CorporateTiger
I was talking about my timeline.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 8:59 am to tide06
You are correct, Ser.
100 mounted Dothraki would make quick work of an equal number or more Full plate mail Westerosi knights on heavy horse...as The Mongols did to the Russians and Germans, and render infantry straight up fodder.
But only in open field, as they aren't designed to lay siege.
100 mounted Dothraki would make quick work of an equal number or more Full plate mail Westerosi knights on heavy horse...as The Mongols did to the Russians and Germans, and render infantry straight up fodder.
But only in open field, as they aren't designed to lay siege.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:01 am to TigerFanInSouthland
What timeline are you talking about? The order of battles in Robert's rebellion is pretty clear.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:04 am to CorporateTiger
I'm talking about the order in which I just typed that message.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:05 am to CorporateTiger
Varys has been in Essos. I assume his network needs a little rebuilding.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:07 am to CorporateTiger
I though son of firstborn son takes precedent over brother?
For example if Charles and William die in England the kid is heir, not Harry. Or if William dies you say Harry gets it and not the kid?
For example if Charles and William die in England the kid is heir, not Harry. Or if William dies you say Harry gets it and not the kid?
This post was edited on 7/31/17 at 9:08 am
Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:10 am to dawgfan24348
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this epic quote by Tyrion, "Give me ten good men and I'll impregnate the bitch".
He was quoting Bronn.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:19 am to prplhze2000
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no one in her tight circle has real military experience. Tyrion is smart but good at politics, not much experience at war.
Tyrion is skilled in the arts of war and military tactics.
Prior to the last two episodes he prevailed in every military encounter he lead, all against significant odds. He just underestimated his brother/sister in the last few skirmishes. Now that he knows that Jaime and Cersei have become tacticians as well, the game is on.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:20 am to weagle99
I don't think we have a clear answer to that from Westeros. Historically the Targaryen succession jumped around quite a bit. For instance after Baelor starved himself to death, they skipped all of his sisters to give it to Viserys II.
Looking over part of the history quickly, Darren II had a son who had sons. His son (a different) Baelor had children then died. However he and his sons all died in 209 AC, so unless there is a clear timeline for that, I'm not sure who died first.
Looking over part of the history quickly, Darren II had a son who had sons. His son (a different) Baelor had children then died. However he and his sons all died in 209 AC, so unless there is a clear timeline for that, I'm not sure who died first.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:25 am to TigerFanInSouthland
Understood. Proceed
ETA: The idea of Jon being a bastard seemed to skew things in my mind
ETA: The idea of Jon being a bastard seemed to skew things in my mind
This post was edited on 7/31/17 at 9:29 am
Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:26 am to Putty
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He just underestimated his brother/sister in the last few skirmishes
To be fair to him, he didn't know about Euron's fleet. If he'd have known about that, he wouldn't have taken the same approach. I think Euron's fleet destroying her fleet is a way bigger deal to her than what happened in Highgarden.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:27 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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I wouldn't call their relationship abusive. Jaime just has a severe thinking with his dick problem.
I was really hoping for a Queenslayer-type situation with Jamie; but him boning her after she murdered all those innocent people with wildfire makes that seem unlikely
Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:31 am to CorporateTiger
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For instance after Baelor starved himself to death, they skipped all of his sisters to give it to Viserys II.
That's not surprising, there's never been a queen of Westeros until Cersei I believe.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:37 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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No, she isn't. When Aerys died the kingdom passed to Rhaegar, when he died it passed to his only living child, Jon Snow. The timelines are a little muddy though.
But Jon might still be a bastard which would gave Dany a better claim.
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