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re: GOT S6:E9 "Battle of The Bastards" - Reader Thread - NO Leak Spoilers.

Posted on 6/20/16 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 6/20/16 at 12:56 pm to
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And how the hell are the Iron Islands supposed to live if they can't raid anymore?


I think at this point, that agreement is pure self preservation. I don't see it lasting and I can foresee it being an issue for Yara/Theon going forward.

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Do we have any idea how LF plays off helping the Starks? Does he tell Cersei that it was the smarter play?


IMO, I think he knows Kings Landing is folding upon itself with all the crazy shite going on there. If he tries to play that he has the rights as Warden of the North per Ceresi and Tommen to Jon and Co. at this point, they'd kill him. I honestly don't think Ceresi makes it far enough to actually see Littlefinger again and he probably knows that at this point.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/20/16 at 12:56 pm to
she rode off at some point

not sure if it was before of after Ramsay's line about his dogs
Posted by TigerFanatic99
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Posted on 6/20/16 at 12:56 pm to
She rode off right before Ramsey made that comment about not feeding them. She wasn't there. I don't consider this a big plot hole though. Easy enough to infer that Ramsey would starve the dogs.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 6/20/16 at 12:57 pm to
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Pretty sure she was right there next to Jon.


I believe he's talking about the conversation after she rode away (she drops the "You'll be dead by morning" bit and rides off but the shite continues between Jon and Ramsey).
Posted by iluvdatiger
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Posted on 6/20/16 at 12:57 pm to
Another good article from the director on his battle scene inspirations: LINK
Posted by ULSU
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Posted on 6/20/16 at 12:58 pm to
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Pretty sure she was right there next to Jon.


Thank you, I was feeling like I took some crazy pills and was about to rewatch.

Ahh, she rode away. Not a big deal to me anyway. She knows he starves his dogs before a fight or a hunt.
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Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 6/20/16 at 12:59 pm to
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She rode off right before Ramsey made that comment about not feeding them. She wasn't there. I don't consider this a big plot hole though. Easy enough to infer that Ramsey would starve the dogs.


Ah... yeah that doesn't bother me at all. Jon might have tied him up in the dog kennels and told Sansa that the dogs were hungry. She did have to ask Jon where he was, after all, so she didn't put him down there.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 6/20/16 at 1:00 pm to
Excellent points. LF has played the game perfectly so far. I want to see if he gets smug and let's Sansa play him.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
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Posted on 6/20/16 at 1:01 pm to
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And how the hell are the Iron Islands supposed to live if they can't raid anymore?


Rock farming.

Though realistically they could probably get by fishing and being mercenaries.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/20/16 at 1:03 pm to
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And how the hell are the Iron Islands supposed to live if they can't raid anymore?


Give them the Karstarks' land. They won't be needing it anymore.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
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Posted on 6/20/16 at 1:05 pm to
Were the dogs sleeping when they put Ramsey in he kennels?
Posted by CorporateTiger
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Posted on 6/20/16 at 1:06 pm to
The Ironborn spent a long-arse time not raiding and reaving. They have been a subject of the Seven Kingdoms for a long arse time now.

Not sure why you think Robert and all the Targaryens would have let them raid the other kingdoms...
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 6/20/16 at 1:07 pm to
Also we know there are lands beyond the official "Seven Kingdoms". Plenty of land to explore and conquer I think if they really want to. I still think it was a self-preservation thing though and they don't have any intention of no longer raiding.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
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Posted on 6/20/16 at 1:08 pm to
That could be a percentage against itself.
Posted by kwalt1989
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Posted on 6/20/16 at 1:08 pm to
Somebody mentioned in a theory video on YouTube that the Ironborn will probably just become merchants since they still have the biggest fleet of ships in the seven kingdoms
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 6/20/16 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

quote:
And how the hell are the Iron Islands supposed to live if they can't raid anymore?


Give them the Karstarks' land. They won't be needing it anymore.


Great answer.
Posted by CorporateTiger
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Posted on 6/20/16 at 1:14 pm to
That pretty much is what they do now. Euron is a renegade pirate, of which I am sure there are a few. Overall though, the Ironborn haven't been raiding shite in decades of not centuries except their brief failed uprisings.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 6/20/16 at 1:14 pm to
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Unless Jaime and the Lannister army get turned around because of recent developments in the North? Walder starts griping about the wolves rising again and someone better do something or we'll lose the twins, and so forth.



I think Jaime either goes North to fight against the walkers coming over the wall(not sure who motivates him to do this), or he goes west after Cersei flees King's Landing. He goes West and I'd think the Lannister army would get obliterated as Dany lands there.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 6/20/16 at 1:20 pm to
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Why would Jaime head to the Twins instead of back to KL, though?


first thing i thought when i saw that scene...what happened to "kill every tully so i can get home"?
Posted by CorporateTiger
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Posted on 6/20/16 at 1:24 pm to
I think he is sick of the Freys and planning on serving up some King's Justice as a slight detour on his way home.

I don't think the Freys particularly impressed him at Riverrun.
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