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re: GoT S6: E10 "The Winds of Winter" BOOK READERS

Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:05 am to
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:05 am to
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but unfortunately for Cersei...her snow white wasn't on her side of the Narrow Sea.



To be honest, I think Cersei may be suspicious she killed the wrong Queen, and as soon as she hears what LF did in the North, I'm sure she'll be somewhat convinced she's the young Queen who will try to usurp her. Really the Queen prophesy I believe is inevitable.
Posted by Dave Worth
Metairie
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:06 am to
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Did they ever meet when robert brought the family to winterfell? Seems like Joff was the onyl kid that went up there and met everyone.


After this season I decided to talk my wife into watching the show. We started last night and watched the first episodes.

All 3 Lannister children were there. Not sure if it's the same actors because they grow up so quick. But there was a very young blonde boy and a young blond girl.

Most importantly, my wife enjoyed it! Looking forward to rewatching it again with someone who is completely new to everything.
Posted by UncleBlazer
Member since Jan 2013
3333 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:10 am to
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Did they ever meet when robert brought the family to winterfell? Seems like Joff was the onyl kid that went up there and met everyone.



No idea in the show. In the book however they trained at arms together when Tommen visited and seemed to have a good time. Not from Bran pov. I think Jon but don't hold me to it. Could have been Arya
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:12 am to
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Not sure if it's the same actors because they grow up so quick. But there was a very young blonde boy and a young blond girl.


I know Tommen was replaced, not sure of Myrcella.
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:17 am to
Myrcella definitely was. She was actually recast with a younger girl.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:17 am to
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not sure of Myrcella.


she was
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:28 am to
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Most importantly, my wife enjoyed it! Looking forward to rewatching it again with someone who is completely new to everything.



We just started watching the week before last for the first time. We are through season two now and about to go buy season three. I am a maester, she is a hodor. We are both enjoying it in different ways.

I've come to learn that even though she has never read the books, she isn't nearly as retarded as the bulk of the hodors here.
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:37 am to
Dany and Sansa are still huge threats to her and she'll continue to spiral into craziness because of it.
Posted by 19
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:39 am to
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I read a post recently that said that every character Robert shook hands with/hugged in that scene in the pilot episode has died.


...And what killed the mamma Direwolf they found just before Robert arrived?
This post was edited on 6/29/16 at 10:41 am
Posted by Geauxrilla Ballz
S'port
Member since Jan 2009
672 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:46 am to
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I know Tommen was replaced, not sure of Myrcella


Both Tommen and Myrcella were recast. Interesting fact: The current older Tommen was also one of the Lannister boys that were executed in Robb Stark's camp by Lord Karstark (the reason he was beheaded by Robb).

Same actor.

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What killed the momma direwolf?


Ned pulled a stag's antlers out of the direwolf's throat - so the dead stag they found first likely killed the direwolf mother (nice forshadowing to the Starks falling inadvertently bc of the Baratheons).
This post was edited on 6/29/16 at 10:49 am
Posted by Chaz95
Dallas, Texas
Member since Nov 2007
19697 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:48 am to
In Episode 6:10, of course we discovered that R+L=J. That was an incredible moment in television history.

As Lyanna whispers in Ned's ear to protect her baby from Robert, because he will kill him, this tells me that she was not kidnapped and raped as the Stark family thought. But that she loved Rhaegar and married him making Jon Snow the rightful heir to the Iron Throne.

But then there's Daenerys, the Mother of Dragons, who is about to conquer Westeros. Everyone thinks that she is destined to reign from the Iron Throne.

As I watched the final episode, it dawned on me that Daenerys' mother died during birth, and she is The Unburnt. Lyanna died giving birth to a Targaryen child, "Jon Snow"...there is one other character whose mother died giving birth to him...

Tyrion! My theory is that we will discover that he is not a Lannister, but a Targaryen.

The three-headed dragon of the Targaryen family:
Jon, Daenerys and Tyrion




Posted by Geauxrilla Ballz
S'port
Member since Jan 2009
672 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:53 am to
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In Episode 6:10, of course we discovered that R+L=J. That was an incredible moment in television history. As Lyanna whispers in Ned's ear to protect her baby from Robert, because he will kill him, this tells me that she was not kidnapped and raped as the Stark family thought. But that she loved Rhaegar and married him making Jon Snow the rightful heir to the Iron Throne. But then there's Daenerys, the Mother of Dragons, who is about to conquer Westeros. Everyone thinks that she is destined to reign from the Iron Throne. As I watched the final episode, it dawned on me that Daenerys' mother died during birth, and she is The Unburnt. Lyanna died giving birth to a Targaryen child, "Jon Snow"...there is one other character whose mother died giving birth to him... Tyrion! My theory is that we will discover that he is not a Lannister, but a Targaryen. The three-headed dragon of the Targaryen family: Jon, Daenerys and Tyrion


There is evidence that the Mad King favored Tywin Lannister's wife and impregnated her with Tyrion - explaining why Tywin makes the comment that he cannot prove that Tyrion is not his son, and why he hates him so much.

Three Targaryen children - the King, the Queen, and the Hand? Possibly even Jamie/Cersai, too. The Mad Queen?
Posted by UncleBlazer
Member since Jan 2013
3333 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:57 am to
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There is evidence that the Mad King favored Tywin Lannister's wife and impregnated her with Tyrion - explaining why Tywin makes the comment that he cannot prove that Tyrion is not his son, and why he hates him so much.



Nope there is actually zero evidence of that. We learn from Ser Barristan that Aerys possibly took certain liberties with Joanna on Tywin's wedding night making it impossible for him to father Tyrion on that occasion.

Honestly, if Tyrion turns out a Targaryen in the books, I will be pissed.
Posted by Chaz95
Dallas, Texas
Member since Nov 2007
19697 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 11:02 am to
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if Tyrion turns out a Targaryen in the books


I thought of the first episode after re-watching 6:10. Remember what he told Jon Snow?

"Every dwarf is a bastard."

foreshadowing at it's finest...
Posted by Tiger at Law
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
3009 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 11:02 am to
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That whole scene reminds me of her being a Disney evil queen villain.


I can see that. She also kind of reminded me of Tina Turner in Mad Max.

Posted by Chaz95
Dallas, Texas
Member since Nov 2007
19697 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 11:03 am to
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Three Targaryen children - the King, the Queen, and the Hand?


exactly my theory...

Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 11:06 am to
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There is evidence that the Mad King favored Tywin Lannister's wife and impregnated her with Tyrion - explaining why Tywin makes the comment that he cannot prove that Tyrion is not his son, and why he hates him so much.


But that explanation isn't interesting at all. What is interesting is how much Tywin despises his most competent and the child most like him. The fact of the matter is if Tyrion wasn't born a dwarf, he would be Tywin's favored son, despite the drinking and whoring and being indirectly responsible for his wife's death. Tywin hates Tyrion because he represents everything Tywin hates about himself in physical form. Tywin hating Tyrion because he suspects he's Aerys son destroys their relationship entirely.
Posted by UncleBlazer
Member since Jan 2013
3333 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 11:08 am to
This theory has been discussed ad naseum. If you have new evidence or can present better than a thousand others, go ahead.

If you just learned of this theory, might want to go do some research
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
52291 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 11:09 am to
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The fact of the matter is if Tyrion wasn't born a dwarf, he would be Tywin's favored son,


I'm not sure. I think he hates Tyrion for the same reasons Cercei does. That being they blame Tyrion for killing his mom.

Posted by Chaz95
Dallas, Texas
Member since Nov 2007
19697 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 11:10 am to
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Tywin hating Tyrion because he suspects he's Aerys son destroys their relationship entirely


I don't think that Tywin knows he is "not the father" (Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!)

I only suspect that Tyrion is the bastard son of Aerys and Joanna.
This post was edited on 6/29/16 at 11:15 am
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