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Posted on 6/29/16 at 9:06 pm to ell_13
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Them being Kingsguard? Thought you meant Ed and company. Either way, they knew what he was talking about. They knew it was over. Which is my originally question. They "vow" to kill all who approach no matter what? Seems too much given that Lyanna died anyway. And what was Dayne going to do with a baby that Ed didn't?
They made a vow to the prince that they loved back when vows meant something. We have no idea the extent of what they knew before Ned arrived. They were guarding a woman that their prince told them to protect, period. Had Rhaegar had them vow to stare at a bush in the desert until he came back for them then they probably would have died staring at that bush.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 9:06 pm to Warfarer
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I can't argue that but no one mentions that Lyanna and Rhaegar were married to which it wasn't a known thing. A secret marriage would mean that by all accounts he is still a bastard.
Well maybe however Jon's true parentage it is proven to everyone is also whether or not they're married is revealed.
Married or not Jon doesn't want the throne so it shouldn't matter. Rhaegar probably had the Kingsgaurd protecting Lyanna and Jon becuase he was convinced Jon was the PTWP rather than him being the heir.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 9:08 pm to OMLandshark
quote:assumption*
true
And this kids were not dead when Rhaegar made them "vow". It was not a month before. It was at Lanisters hands remember? After the sack of KL.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 9:08 pm to Patton
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Are you still considered a bastard if both of your parents are high born nobles?
A bastard is born out of wedlock. That is the very definition of a bastard. High born or low born makes no difference in that regard.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 9:08 pm to ell_13
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Almost none of that is true. Just wild assumptions. Small folk vs 6 major houses? Stop.
Ummm, nope, because they could have gotten the Free Cities, multiple Sell Sword companies, Dorne, and the Reach to join them. It's not all that wild of an assumption.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 9:09 pm to Warfarer
Has there ever been any other occurrence of two high borns having a child out of wedlock? Besides Cerci and Jamie I guess.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 9:10 pm to Patton
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Has there ever been any other occurrence of two high borns having a child out of wedlock? Besides Cerci and Jamie I guess.
Robert did one. I think it was someone of House Florentine, although I'm drawing a blank.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 9:10 pm to OMLandshark
So just a random bunch of people out of the free cities are supposed to suddenly care for 3 people who just lost a war? And what gold would they use to buy these sell swords. Ummmm... Yep. Wild.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 9:11 pm to Warfarer
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A secret marriage would mean that by all accounts he is still a bastard.
No it wouldn't. A secret marriage is still a marriage, and several Targs had married more than one woman.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 9:11 pm to OMLandshark
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I'm saying that Lyanna and Rhaegar were married like Aegon I. He is a rightful legal heir and not a true bastard.
If you mean as in having two wives, that is certainly a legitimate argument. Problem with that is that everything you hear about Rhaegar that isn't his personality and we haven't heard anyone mention it at all. It was known that Aegon 1 married both sisters.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 9:15 pm to blueboy
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No it wouldn't. A secret marriage is still a marriage, and several Targs had married more than one woman.
if no one knows about the marriage and there is no record of it then it didn't happen and he wouldn't be an heir.
Also, something I noticed that I haven't seen mentioned was the second Tower of Joy scene was overlapped from the first. Ned stops and looks around as though he hears something like in the first one but Bran didn't say anything that time. I guess that means that once something is affected it stays?
Posted on 6/29/16 at 9:17 pm to Warfarer
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If you mean as in having two wives, that is certainly a legitimate argument. Problem with that is that everything you hear about Rhaegar that isn't his personality and we haven't heard anyone mention it at all.
Well it wasn't in his personality to run off with betrothed girl despite having wife and kids of his own but he did it anyway.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 9:20 pm to Warfarer
quote:Joffrey had all of the bastards killed.
Didn't stop Cercei from attempting to kill all of Roberts bastards
I think she did that because the Baratheon "seed was strong"
Posted on 6/29/16 at 9:22 pm to Warfarer
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can't argue that but no one mentions that Lyanna and Rhaegar were married to which it wasn't a known thing. A secret marriage would mean that by all accounts he is still a bastard.
Depends on what evidence is left behind that it happened. Maybe it comes up in Oldtown when questions arise as to who is the real heir? Who knows. Someone had to officiate the union and I imagine Rhaegar would've made a point of for it to be recorded in some shape or form.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 9:25 pm to Patton
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Has there ever been any other occurrence of two high borns having a child out of wedlock?
a few of the Sand Snakes were.
Blackfyres were founded by one.
Aegon 4 had a bunch apparently.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 9:26 pm to Warfarer
Bastards are not looked down upon in Dorne.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 9:27 pm to PatDyesPants
I hope that the entire first episode of Season 7 is set in Dorne, with extra time to discuss the political ramifications of the Sand Snakes' actions. 
Posted on 6/29/16 at 9:30 pm to Warfarer
Aegor Rivers (Bittersteel) is one. Aegon IV was his father. With a funny story to boot (his mother was Barba Bracken):
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In 172 AC, King Aegon IV Targaryen was visiting Stone Hedge when he saw the hills called the Mother's Teats, and renamed them Barba's Teats on account of their resemblance to his buxom mistress's breasts. After Barba was sent from court, Aegon took a new mistress, Melissa "Missy" Blackwood; Missy was slender, and Barba was heard to say that she was flat as a boy. When Aegon heard how Barba had disparaged his mistress, he renamed the hills Missy's Teats,[2] and granted them to House Blackwood.[3] The Blackwoods still call the hills Missy's Teats, and the Brackens still call them Barba's Teats.[2]
Posted on 6/29/16 at 9:31 pm to OMLandshark
quote:Florent. Delena, Edric's mother, during Stannis' wedding party.
Robert did one. I think it was someone of House Florentine, although I'm drawing a blank.
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