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re: GoT "Middle Ground" Thread - Sn 4 - Offseason Discussion ***Spoilers Possible***

Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by TigerintheNO
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:11 pm to
Yes
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:11 pm to
I know that the founder of their house, Lann the Clever supposedly used his wits to swindle Casterly Rock from the Casterleys somewhere way back. But the didn't really go into any details about it.
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:12 pm to
JIMP
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:14 pm to
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

How exactly does the throne make money?


They collect taxes from the lords who collect from the landowners.

sorry saw it's been answered many times over.

It's an interesting world GRRM created. I always wanted to know more about Essos and Sothyos.
We always focus on Westeros, but that's the "new" world.
This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 1:35 pm
Posted by SeauxLeauxHeaux
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:35 pm to
So ruce's bastard punished theon/reke for crimes against the starks but doesn't Ruce set up Rob Stark?

Also the new nights watchman who was trained in battle and helped Jon Snow attack the rogue watchmen was hired to kill Brand correct?

if it was previously mentioned I apologize not reading through everything
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:41 pm to
Exactly; Dorne does produce some foods . Sansa said how rare it was to get lemons in E5 when they showed up in the Vale. Not fully sure how Littlefinger acquired them though.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:52 pm to
Thanks to my fellow maesters who have been holding down the thread while I test the limits of my liver in Vegas. For I am the god of tits and wine.
Posted by CE Tiger
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

So ruce's bastard punished theon/reke for crimes against the starks but doesn't Ruce set up Rob Stark?



quote:

the rogue watchmen was hired to kill Brand correct?


"Hodor" said Hodor
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:10 pm to
Posted by TigerintheNO
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:16 pm to
quote:

So ruce's bastard punished theon/reke for crimes against the starks but doesn't Ruce set up Rob Stark?


Roose sent his son Ramsey to take Winterfell from the Iron Born and restore it to northern control. Roose also set up Robb Stark and ensured that all major houses in the north suffered major casualties. Roose has now been name Warden of the North by the crown, but he has to win control himself. The Iron Born control a strategic strong, Moat Cailin.

quote:

Also the new nights watchman who was trained in battle and helped Jon Snow attack the rogue watchmen was hired to kill Brand correct?


He was the guy that cut off Jamie's hand, his story in the book ended long ago.
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:23 pm to
Posted by SeauxLeauxHeaux
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

"Hodor" said Hodor


suck it nerds
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:32 pm to
I guess I've seen so much desert in Essos that at first I thought that for a brief second I thought Dany had either a) made her way to Westeros and my mind was about to be blown or b) her dragon went rogue and made its way across the sea and was gonna get killed.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 3:42 pm to
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Didn't we see snow at the Vale in the previews for this weeks episode?



Doesn't necessarily mean it's winter yet. The Eyrie is on top of a tall mountain well north of King's Landing.
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 3:51 pm to
Well frick me.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:19 pm to
Oh Loras

Posted by Eman5805
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Posted on 5/13/14 at 9:42 pm to
Heard a theory float by about why Shae was speaking against Tyrion and man, it fits.

We always almost hear about Shae's backstory and specifically her family. It was even a sore spot for her when Tyrion ignorantly insulted her parents. And she looked more under duress than vengeful when giving that false testimony.

Seems like we could be seeing a classic "I have your family. Do as I say or they die." Kinda deal.

It would also explain the fear in her face when Tyrion asked for trial by combat. If Tyrion gets off, her family dies anyway. Maybe.
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 5/13/14 at 10:13 pm to
Exactly . This impending Winter is going to be so bad for all Seven Kingdoms and it's still Fall!
This post was edited on 5/13/14 at 10:13 pm
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 5/13/14 at 10:25 pm to
The whole "winter is coming" thing is kinda bullshite now right? I mean thousands of people predict the end of the world everyday, eventually somebody is gonna get it right.
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