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re: GoT "Middle Ground" Thread - Between Seasons Edition ***Spoilers Possible***
Posted on 5/4/15 at 1:44 pm to wildtigercat93
Posted on 5/4/15 at 1:44 pm to wildtigercat93
As a non-book reader, Bannister was just another background character to me. Seeing him possibly die didn't mean much beyond the affect on Dany.
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 1:47 pm to wildtigercat93
Yeah SoDak.. Sounds like you got a brain dead Khal Drago on your hands.
However I do agree that this thread has enhanced my viewing as well. Moreso, I'm doing a rewatch and so many things and people and places are more abundantly clear than through my first viewing which was a binge watch prior to this season starting. I've paid much more attention to people and places and such this go around.. Makes me feel like I'm doing the little lord studying ritual of naming a place, lord, and their sigil haha.
However I do agree that this thread has enhanced my viewing as well. Moreso, I'm doing a rewatch and so many things and people and places are more abundantly clear than through my first viewing which was a binge watch prior to this season starting. I've paid much more attention to people and places and such this go around.. Makes me feel like I'm doing the little lord studying ritual of naming a place, lord, and their sigil haha.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 1:48 pm to SoDakHawk
Yeah, I started out watching the show and was lost on how all of the houses fit together, and what was actually going on with the overall background story. I then went back and googled Robert's Rebellion and that helped a whole lot. Then I just decided to just go ahead and start on the books.
But I agree that the true Hodors are probably missing out on a lot of what is actually going on. I know in the comic tv show threads (Arrow, Flash, AoS, ect.), the non-comic readers love the fact that the readers keep them informed on the background of the characters and stuff. Now that Game of Thrones is passing and diverging from ASOIAF, the readers really don't know what will happen in the future anymore than the Hodors. But I guess the Hodors like to be in the dark on the background stuff.
But I agree that the true Hodors are probably missing out on a lot of what is actually going on. I know in the comic tv show threads (Arrow, Flash, AoS, ect.), the non-comic readers love the fact that the readers keep them informed on the background of the characters and stuff. Now that Game of Thrones is passing and diverging from ASOIAF, the readers really don't know what will happen in the future anymore than the Hodors. But I guess the Hodors like to be in the dark on the background stuff.
This post was edited on 5/4/15 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 5/4/15 at 1:50 pm to Bamatab
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But I agree that the true Hodors are probably missing out on a lot of what is actually going on.
My Hodor wife asks me to pause and explain what is going on at least 5 times each episode
This post was edited on 5/4/15 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 5/4/15 at 1:52 pm to freeagent
In my house I've got one roommate whose a book reader, me, and a comotos Khal Drago
So it's fun to see the differences in a reaction to an episode
Roommate #1 "Damn they changed that majorly from the book, I wonder how they will connect it"
Me "oh damn that means that this equal that... I hope that guy doesn't die"
Roommate #2 "that really hot blonde haired chick with the dragons is really awesome! Wait which one is Arya? Is she the red hair witch?
So it's fun to see the differences in a reaction to an episode
Roommate #1 "Damn they changed that majorly from the book, I wonder how they will connect it"
Me "oh damn that means that this equal that... I hope that guy doesn't die"
Roommate #2 "that really hot blonde haired chick with the dragons is really awesome! Wait which one is Arya? Is she the red hair witch?
Posted on 5/4/15 at 1:54 pm to Bamatab
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But I guess the Hodors like to be in the dark on the background stuff.
I just glanced at the Hodor thread (which is wonderful entertainment, BTW) - Cokes (I guess their self-appointed king) thinks Bran, Hodor, Rickon and Osha are all still together.
I guess reminding him they split up a while ago would be "spoilerish".
Posted on 5/4/15 at 1:57 pm to Ace Midnight
He probably thinks Osha and Rickon are The Reed siblings
Posted on 5/4/15 at 1:57 pm to Bamatab
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it is still an unproven theory.
last week i was thinking that this theory wouldn't pan out to frick with fans, and i kept thinking about john's hair
is it that jet black in the books? i have read half of book 1 but i forget. it just seems like a bigger, more obvious, clue, esp with season 1
Posted on 5/4/15 at 2:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
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last week i was thinking that this theory wouldn't pan out to frick with fans, and i kept thinking about john's hair is it that jet black in the books? i have read half of book 1 but i forget. it just seems like a bigger, more obvious, clue, esp with season 1
If the theory is true, then he is just as much a Stark as he is a Targ. So it's not impossible to do some allel math on possessive and recessive genes from there
Also from what my book reader friend has said, his eyes have a little targaryn in them (which are purple in the books)
Posted on 5/4/15 at 2:01 pm to freeagent
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Yeah SoDak.. Sounds like you got a brain dead Khal Drago on your hands.
Nah. He's a smart guy. It's just not possible to catch every detail in this show if you are a complete Hodor and binge watching 6-8 episodes a day. He dang near finished season 4 in one Saturday. He admittedly said he was going to have to go back and rewatch the entire season in order to make sense of it.
We have the luxury of watching one episode then coming here to break it down over the course of a week. Every single line gets dissected this way.
I also YouTubed Robert's Rebellion and the info on each house last summer. It helped bring everything into perspective, even if some things got spoiled. I can at least watch the show now.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 2:02 pm to wildtigercat93
well the stark children's hair isn't that dark, right?
i could see there being some subplot of robert knocking up lyanna and rhaegar (and ned) hiding it, which would also give him "king's blood"
ned (and rhaegar) would have just as much of a reason to hide john's identity in that scenario, too
i could see there being some subplot of robert knocking up lyanna and rhaegar (and ned) hiding it, which would also give him "king's blood"
ned (and rhaegar) would have just as much of a reason to hide john's identity in that scenario, too
Posted on 5/4/15 at 2:02 pm to wildtigercat93
Comatose Khal Drago is the greatest tigerdroppings phrase of all time
My IRL roommate and a handful of posters in the Hodor thread freaked out last season when we discussed Stannis heading to the wall prior to his actual arrival.
They were crying SPOILER! despite the fact that it had been directly discussed in the show only a few weeks beforehand.
Since then, I'm a middle grounder.
My IRL roommate and a handful of posters in the Hodor thread freaked out last season when we discussed Stannis heading to the wall prior to his actual arrival.
They were crying SPOILER! despite the fact that it had been directly discussed in the show only a few weeks beforehand.
Since then, I'm a middle grounder.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 2:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i could see there being some subplot of robert knocking up lyanna and rhaegar (and ned) hiding it, which would also give him "king's blood" ned (and rhaegar) would have just as much of a reason to hide john's identity in that scenario, too
This is plausible if you completely ignore the fact that Ned and Rhagear were enemies, Ned thought his sister was kidnapped by Rhager and the entire Tower of Joy Sequence
Posted on 5/4/15 at 2:04 pm to wildtigercat93
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He probably thinks Osha and Rickon are The Reed siblings
Good point.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 2:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
This is a good point. I was basically sold on "R+L = J" before last night and I initially thought last night proved it... But then I got to thinking about the red priestess trying to seduce Jon, and how she only really tries that on people with Kings blood... And how she feels the Baratheons are the true kings....
Very interesting.
Very interesting.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 2:05 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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Comatose Khal Drago is the greatest tigerdroppings phrase of all time
My one contribution to this site worth a damn probably
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y IRL roommate and a handful of posters in the Hodor thread freaked out last season when we discussed Stannis heading to the wall prior to his actual arrival. They were crying SPOILER! despite the fact that it had been directly discussed in the show only a few weeks beforehand.
This is the worst. It's like quicksand. The more you try to explain, the deeper they get convinced that you are spoiling things
Posted on 5/4/15 at 2:06 pm to wildtigercat93
ned wouldn't have found out until he found lyanna, as she was dying. i don't think ned knew the story until that point
rhaegar was already dead and now his sister died. ned's feelings towards rhaegar were irrelevant at that point
rhaegar was already dead and now his sister died. ned's feelings towards rhaegar were irrelevant at that point
Posted on 5/4/15 at 2:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
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rhaegar was already dead and now his sister died. ned's feelings towards rhaegar were irrelevant at that point
But Jon's safety does
Why would Jon be in danger as the son of Lyanna and the King?
Why would the targaryns have their best kings guardsmen guarding the child of Robert and Lyanna?
Why would Lyanna make bed promise to not tell anyone?
Posted on 5/4/15 at 2:10 pm to SoDakHawk
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He initially thought Cersai had Joffrey killed so she wouldn't have to marry Ser Loras. After viewing the subsequent episodes he dropped that theory and got it right though wasn't really in tune to the why
The Loras & Cersai marriage proposal isn't in the books, Loras isn't the oldest male Tyrell and therefore isn't the heir to Highgarden. He joins the Kingsguard replacing the guy Podrick killed saving Tyrion.
Loras is probably the most underrated fighter on GoT.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 2:10 pm to wildtigercat93
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The more you try to explain, the deeper they get convinced that you are spoiling things
i gave up
between people straight up being dumb about following basics in the show and being crucified for the history of lore shite, i just gave up
lord help you if you guess something correctly
but seriously, the show and books are not even close to the same now, and the book readers are mostly hodors, so it's comical
...but don't tell them that
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