re: GoT "Middle Ground" Thread - Between Seasons Discussion ***Spoilers Possible***

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I am really smart.

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check out the big brain on brad

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Blueboy likes the flame wars, just ignore him. He's tried before to create fighting in this thread among the readers and nonreaders over what amounts to nothing. I have been doing serious stuff all day and had to reorient myself to the ways of TD.

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Get a job. I have learned many things from this thread that viewers should not have known ahead of time.

I'm not interested in flaming at all. I just think the thread has some major flaws that occasionally ruin people's viewing experience. That's all.

This thread is getting treacherous, I might avoid but I hope it hangs on and doesn't destroy itself.

If I see anything too bad get posted I will update the thread title with a warning with risk level. Though of course I can't monitor the thread at all times and have no ability to prevent some rouge a-hole from doing what a-holes do.

I want to avoid bothering the admins over this petty shite if at all possible, but if someone is obviously screwing with everyone just to amuse themselves I will take appropriate action. This action will remain proportional to the offense made. I mean, I'm not a Frey.

so he cut off Theon's dick...

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This thread is getting treacherous, I might avoid but I hope it hangs on and doesn't destroy itself.

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I just don't get it. Yay, you read a fricking book , now go to the book readers thread (not to you Bos)

Why does even "mild" spoilers have to be in here? Can't this be a place where a Hodor like me can ask questions about WHAT WE'VE SEEN ON THE SHOW SO FAR and not have to learn about other things that may have happened or..? Middle ground should help people understand without having to read the books up until where we are at.

Ok, so now I have a question
Please tell me a little about Rhaegar. Was he heavily mentioned early on in the series? Which ep (if someone recalls) should I go back and watch? I don't want to google search as that will definitely spoil.

This thread is great for the most part though

Rhaegar is mentioned a lot more in the books than the show, although the show has mentioned him a good bit.

In the finale of this season, when Tywin and Tyrion are owning Joffrey, Joffrey says something along the lines of "My father won the real battle against Prince Rhaegar at the Trident, while you hid under Casterly Rock!"

Basically showing that Tywin didn't pick a side/ was a coward until the very end when he knew which side--Robert--would for sure win.

The catalyst why Ned and Robert went to war was because the mad king killed Neds father and brother and Rhaegar allegedly abducted Lyanna Stark. Neds sister and Roberts true love who Robert was arranged to marry.
Rhaegar would be Dany's oldest brother and heir to the throne if the Targaryens didn't lose in Robert's rebellion

The Mad King killed Ned's dad and brother, and then said he wanted to kill Ned and Robert, who were both being fostered at the Eyrie by Jon Arryn at the time. Jon called his banners and that's the beginning of the rebellion. Robert had the best claim to the throne because his grandmother was a Targ.

Ned had no desire to be involved in King's Landing politics after the war and wanted to return to his home in Winterfell and be Warden of the North. That's partially why Robert chose Jon Arryn as his Hand.

Also, Robert was adamant that Rhaegar kidnapped and raped Lyanna, while others think she went willingly and were in love with each other.

Even Ned recalls that Lyanna knew about Robert's whoring ways and doubted that he'd remain faithful to her after marriage. He had a bastard daughter in the Vale during his betrothal but she's not in the show but is in book 1.

Based on what I've seen in the show and read thus far in the books, Robert was infatuated with Lyanna and somewhat delusional about how she could possibly want another man besides himself.