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re: Godfather 1 and 2–What is your favorite scene?
Posted on 12/10/23 at 11:36 am to RD Dawg
Posted on 12/10/23 at 11:36 am to RD Dawg
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And perhaps the traitor who assisted in Michael's assassination attempt
My one criticism of the movies is they had Neri just show up. No background.
If they had included some of his background from the book, you’d know the above statement is crazy.
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 1:40 pm to Sus-Scrofa
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My one criticism of the movies is they had Neri just show up. No background.
And they do exact opposite with Luca Brasi. We only hear his background. We could have had one scene showing us how big of a badass he was.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 2:18 pm to upgrade
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And they do exact opposite with Luca Brasi. We only hear his background. We could have had one scene showing us how big of a badass he was.
in the book, it tells how scary of a man he was and why his loyalty to Vito was unwavering. I am not sure in 1972 they could have gotten what the book tells about Luca in the movie
Posted on 12/10/23 at 2:34 pm to Jeb Busch Lite
All the great ones have been mentioned but I'll throw in the Don Ciccio scene And this is for you!
Posted on 12/10/23 at 2:53 pm to Sho Nuff
Just thought of one of my favorite scenes from 2.
Vito meeting with the landlord
“The rent stays the same!!!”
Vito meeting with the landlord
“The rent stays the same!!!”
Posted on 12/10/23 at 3:24 pm to Jeb Busch Lite
Dozens of great scenes. Nearly every scene has a meaning and is a building block to another scene.
Just take the very first scene that lays the foundation for the entire series where the mortician Bonasera comes to ask the Don for help on Connie’s wedding day. It’s a masterpiece.
Just take the very first scene that lays the foundation for the entire series where the mortician Bonasera comes to ask the Don for help on Connie’s wedding day. It’s a masterpiece.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 4:05 pm to Legba007
quote:The original choice for Luca was character actor Timothy Carey
in the book, it tells how scary of a man he was and why his loyalty to Vito was unwavering. I am not sure in 1972 they could have gotten what the book tells about Luca in the movie
But Carey instead chose to a TV comedy pilot he was producing, about -- I'm not kidding -- a veterinarian who could talk to dead animals.
Luca ended up played by a former wrestler & mafia bodyguard who wasn't an actor. He couldn't handle the thank you speech, so Coppola added shots of him practicing it. But unfortunately what this did was make Luca into a comic figure, far from the horrifying monster of the book.
Luca is one of the very few things the book does better than the movie.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 4:13 pm to Sus-Scrofa
quote:Too bad they didn't go into how he was a cop (that's why he has a uniform) & why he left the force: he shot a black thug who was terrorizing his neighborhood, and the black citizenry... Sided w/the criminal. Neri was accused of brutality & fired.
My one criticism of the movies is they had Neri just show up. No background.
quote:Nawquote:If they had included some of his background from the book, you’d know the above statement is crazy.
And perhaps the traitor who assisted in Michael's assassination attempt.
If we learn anything from history, if Tessio & Fredo teach us anything, it's that anyone can be a traitor.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 4:28 pm to Jeb Busch Lite
Part one the hospital scene. After it’s done Enzo is shaking so bad he can’t light his cigarette. Michael lights it for him and notices he isn’t shaking.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 4:28 pm to Kafka
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Naw If we learn anything from history, if Tessio & Fredo teach us anything, it's that anyone can be a traitor.
I disagree. Luca and Neri were different animals, different natures. The book says that repeatedly.
This post was edited on 12/10/23 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 12/10/23 at 4:47 pm to Sus-Scrofa
quote:And I disagree.
I disagree. Luca and Neri were different animals, different natures. The book says that repeatedly
A theme of the book/saga is the changeover from old world to new world values ("Your country ain't your blood!").
It's not personal (old world/honor). It's strictly business (new world/money).
Tessio has been with the Don from the beginning, and sells Michael out ("Tell Mike it was just business").
And when Fredo betrays him, Michael learns even the old world idea of blood and honor was a lie.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 4:50 pm to Jeb Busch Lite
I have always liked the series of scenes where Michael is at the hospital dealing with his father's needs as the assassins are about to murder the don.
But the best of these (as was recently mentioned) is when he gets Enzo to join him on the front steps to bravely face the police.
This is Michael's transitional moment - he can no longer evade being drawn into the family and is forced to act. He has crossed the Rubicon.
But the best of these (as was recently mentioned) is when he gets Enzo to join him on the front steps to bravely face the police.
This is Michael's transitional moment - he can no longer evade being drawn into the family and is forced to act. He has crossed the Rubicon.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 6:33 pm to Sus-Scrofa
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quote: Naw If we learn anything from history, if Tessio & Fredo teach us anything, it's that anyone can be a traitor. I disagree. Luca and Neri were different animals, different natures. The book says that repeatedly.
I agree with this, the book tells us that when they were brought into the family, nothing would make Neri or Brasi betray the Corleone family. In III, Neri swears his loyalty to Vincent when Mike steps down
Posted on 12/10/23 at 6:54 pm to JonTigerFan11
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Part 2 where Fredo meets with Michael and Michael slowly digs in to him while he sinks deeper in his chair is incredible on all fronts.
There are few better scenes in all of cinema. John Cazale used that chair as if it were a part of his own body.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 7:03 pm to lsutigers504
The Murder Of Luca Brasi....this entire scene is so intense and sinister. Luca all dressed up and looking like the last guy in the world that anyone would want to F*with.
Knife through the hand, strangled by a garrote, slowly dies and falls to the floor. Just great filmmaking.
Knife through the hand, strangled by a garrote, slowly dies and falls to the floor. Just great filmmaking.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 8:36 pm to RollTide1987
“I absolutely adore the scene where the young Vito Corleone (played by Robert De Niro) stalks Don Fanucci before killing him in The Godfather Part II.“
Rolltide1987 - I immediately thought of this when I read the OP. And after the hit, he breaks the pistol up and drops the pieces down random roof vents.
Rolltide1987 - I immediately thought of this when I read the OP. And after the hit, he breaks the pistol up and drops the pieces down random roof vents.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 10:26 pm to Jeb Busch Lite
When Michael begins speaking and laying out the plan to kill Sollozzo and McCluskey. Sonny and Tom are arguing and Michael is in a chair in the background off to the side. As they squabble he crosses his legs. Then the tide starts to turn.
The perspective of the scene changes and he becomes the focal point. The other actors are in orbit around him. The camera slowly closes in on him.
That’s the point when he is becoming who he is going to be to all of them. It started for him personally in the hospital when he literally tells Vito “Im with you now.”
I also love the scene in his study with the Senator in 2.
At my house “my offer is this…nothing” is said a lot.
The perspective of the scene changes and he becomes the focal point. The other actors are in orbit around him. The camera slowly closes in on him.
That’s the point when he is becoming who he is going to be to all of them. It started for him personally in the hospital when he literally tells Vito “Im with you now.”
I also love the scene in his study with the Senator in 2.
At my house “my offer is this…nothing” is said a lot.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 11:09 pm to Sugarbaker
The best 2 sequences in the 2 movies both involve Duval and none of the other lead characters.
Hagan goes to Hollywood and meets Woltz.
Hagan talks to Frankie 5 Angels.
The Frankie scene is the best.
Coppola's best sequence of his career also features Duval in the Apocalypse Now napalm charge.
It's why Duval is probably the best American actor ever. He never had a bad scene in his prime.
Hagan goes to Hollywood and meets Woltz.
Hagan talks to Frankie 5 Angels.
The Frankie scene is the best.
Coppola's best sequence of his career also features Duval in the Apocalypse Now napalm charge.
It's why Duval is probably the best American actor ever. He never had a bad scene in his prime.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 1:08 am to Kafka
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He couldn't handle the thank you speech, so Coppola added shots of him practicing it. But unfortunately what this did was make Luca into a comic figure, far from the horrifying monster of the book.
I disagree with this. That scene did not make him seem funny. It made him seem more dangerous. Clearly he was not a valuable asset to the Corleones because he was going to come up with any good ideas or be useful in any capacity other than one: he had absolutely no scruples.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 1:41 pm to TheTideMustRoll
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he had absolutely no scruples.
read "The Family Corleone"
it's a prequel to "The Godfather"
Luca is pure evil in that book
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