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George Lucas and Lawrence Kasdan discuss killing off Luke Skywalker in Return of The Jedi

Posted on 11/16/18 at 10:14 pm
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
34684 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 10:14 pm
quote:

Kasdan: I think you should kill Luke and have Leia take over.

Lucas: You don’t want to kill Luke.

Kasdan: Okay, then kill Yoda.

Lucas: I don’t want to kill Yoda. You don’t have to kill people. You’re a product of the 1980s. You don’t go around killing people. It’s not nice.

Kasdan: No, I’m not. I’m trying to give the story some kind of an edge to it.

Lucas: I know you’re trying to make it more realistic, which is what I tried to do when I killed Ben—but I managed to take the edge off of it—and it’s what I tried to do when I froze Han. But this is the end of the trilogy and we’ve already established that there are real dangers. I don’t think we have to kill anyone to prove it.

Kasdan: Ben and Han are fine. Luke got a new hand two cuts later.

Lucas: By killing somebody, I think you alienate the audience.

Kasdan: I’m saying that the movie has more emotional weight if someone you love is lost along the way; the journey has more impact.

Lucas: I don’t like that and I don’t believe that.

Kasdan: Well, that’s all right.

Lucas: I have always hated that in movies, when you go along and one of the main characters gets killed. This is a fairytale. You want everybody to live happily ever after and nothing bad happens to anybody.

Kasdan: I hate it when characters get killed, too.

Lucas: Oh, you do.

Kasdan: I do.

Lucas: I resent it and I resented it when I was a little kid. I would watch and there would be these five guys and one of them would be the funny clown and halfway through, one of them gets killed. Why did they kill the lead? He was the best character.

Marquand: I felt that about Ben the first time I saw Star Wars.

Kasdan: But that one worked like crazy.

Lucas: Yes, I know. But we’ve done that. The same thing with Han. The biggest reaction we got was when people asked, “How can you leave the movie half finished?” Well, the main thrust of this one is that it has to be fun.

Kasdan: There isn’t much fun stuff. There is the Jabba stuff.

Lucas: That’s fun.

Kasdan: And the Ewok stuff and that’s it.

Lucas: There are three parts to the movie: Jabba, the Ewoks, and Luke and the Emperor. Luke and the Emperor are not fun and the other two are. I think that we can roll along with the fun parts and still have this undercurrent of a fairly serious study of father and son, and good and evil. The whole concept of the original film is that Luke redeems his father, which is the classic fairytale: a good father/bad father who the good son will turn back into the good father. We can have a serious line and still have a fairly light film.

The whole point of the film, the whole emotion that I am trying to get at the end of this film, is for you to be real uplifted, emotionally and spiritually, and feel absolutely good about life. That is the greatest thing that we could possibly ever do.


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Posted by Ash Williams
South of i-10
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 11/16/18 at 10:52 pm to
quote:

The whole point of the film, the whole emotion that I am trying to get at the end of this film, is for you to be real uplifted, emotionally and spiritually, and feel absolutely good about life. That is the greatest thing that we could possibly ever do.

Then in a couple decades I’m going to shite on everything with midichlorians and Darth Vader’s hatred of sand.

It should be great.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
59951 posts
Posted on 11/17/18 at 9:08 am to
just another optimistic young man who became jaded as he aged
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103072 posts
Posted on 11/17/18 at 12:01 pm to
Lucas got jaded through a combination of a divorce and the experience of filming Empire, I believe.

He was miserable during Empire because everyone gouged the shite out of them because it was the new Star Wars movie, hence why Jedi was filmed under the production name Blue Harvest.

I believe the woman he divorced was one of his co collaborators on the trilogy (editor?), which is part of why he is so insistent on recutting the originally released versions of the trilogy. Effectively he is trying to minimize her contributions.
Posted by KingSlayer
Member since May 2015
2881 posts
Posted on 11/17/18 at 12:36 pm to
Almost wish Lucas had killed Luke then so we wouldn't have had to watch Rian Johnson sodomize his character on screen.
Posted by Rhames
Member since Apr 2013
1163 posts
Posted on 11/17/18 at 12:37 pm to
How can someone be a "product of the 1980s" when its 1982?
Posted by Rhames
Member since Apr 2013
1163 posts
Posted on 11/17/18 at 12:38 pm to
He didn't film empire.
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9949 posts
Posted on 11/17/18 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

How can someone be a "product of the 1980s" when its 1982?


Means they are stuck in the present and aren't looking towards the future.
Posted by Cow Drogo
Member since Jul 2016
7757 posts
Posted on 11/17/18 at 2:53 pm to
100 bucks says Rian Johnson dislikes Trump
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 11/17/18 at 2:56 pm to
Lucas shot down Solo dying the minute it was suggested. He would never have let Luke die in the OT.
This post was edited on 11/17/18 at 2:59 pm
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