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re: Game of Thrones S8 E3 "The Long Night." Official Thread

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Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 3:30 pm to
Why does he leave the symbols? What do they mean? It feels like Carcosa all over agin
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 3:30 pm to
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They can't match the books. Because the books aren't written.

This is no longer Martin's vision or writing. He turned it over to HBO.



I don’t really even see how’s it’s possible for majority of the characters to have similar book arcs. Arya and Jon are the only two that the show didn’t change that much.

Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 3:31 pm to
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regardless, when Dany comes, when she wins, the IB is screwed


Which goes back to my initial point, the only way the IB gets their money back is to support Cersei or whoever succeeds Cersei in the battle against Jon and Dany
Posted by Philzilla2k
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 3:31 pm to
Official episode title “The Long Night”
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 3:32 pm to
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regardless, when Dany comes, when she wins, the IB is screwed


The IB coffers are deep and Westeros is completely devastated. Yi Ti has a palace as big as all of King’s Landing. Then you’ve got the Free Cities that aren’t fans of dragons. I don’t think they’d have any shortage of troops if Dany decides to go after them.
Posted by Nguyener
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 3:32 pm to
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In episode 6 Tyrion and Sansa have a baby and Tyrion asks “is he... like me?” a la Forrest Gump


That's the funniest thing I've ever seen you post, gaucho.
Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 3:32 pm to
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I can’t imagine having 100k+ rutting dead bodies outside of your castle is going to be great for the farmer community.


I'd do what they did in Europe
This post was edited on 4/29/19 at 3:34 pm
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 3:32 pm to
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don’t really even see how’s it’s possible for majority of the characters to have similar book arcs. Arya and Jon are the only two that the show didn’t change that much



Don’t let this distract you from the fact that Ramrod called me out about D&D using source material for all the things I’ve stated, which as far as I can tell not a single one was from the books
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 3:33 pm to
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I agree with this mostly. Only plothole is at that ceremony there's a carving of the old 3 eyed ravens face on the tree (which is considered holy to the children). So clearly the children held the 3ER in high regard to the point of someone who was god like. So why would the children create the night king try to fight the 3ER?


The night king story basically the terminator plot line.
Posted by CarRamrod
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 3:33 pm to
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One thing that bothered me was that Mel basically got the same death scene as the Purifier, who was originally a Furyan, in "The Chronicles of Riddick."
is it bad that i really liked that movie.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 3:36 pm to
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the only way the IB gets their money back is to support Cersei or whoever succeeds Cersei in the battle against Jon and Dany


Sansa and Tyrion
This post was edited on 4/29/19 at 3:37 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 3:36 pm to
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I don’t really even see how’s it’s possible for majority of the characters to have similar book arcs.

i thought about this last night with where Sansa is, in the show. how can the book Sansa end up close to the same?
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 3:36 pm to
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100k+ rutting bodies

Sounds like the old Playboy Mansion.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 3:37 pm to
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the only way the IB gets their money back is to support Cersei or whoever succeeds Cersei in the battle against Jon and Dany

my point, is that 25% > 0 and working with Dany ensures a larger return
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 3:37 pm to
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you not follow your conversation with SFP. He was talking about how DandD were turning the show into a feel good happy ending story. Then you gave examples of the show that followed source material written by Martin.


do you not see that?



Shireen doesn’t die in the books
Sept doesn’t blow in books

do you understand english.

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DandD were turning the show into a feel good happy ending story.
ENDING! Ending. Was the sept or shireen anywhere near the ending?
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 3:37 pm to
How did the NK even get defeated the first time around? They didn’t kill him but only pushed him back, but how? Because there was no dragons then either and NK could keep addding to his army.
Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 3:37 pm to
Smart to wait then.

Going to sell a shite load more books and make people either passionately loyal to the show or books..and this debate will make lots of money.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 3:38 pm to
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The IB coffers are deep and Westeros is completely devastated. Yi Ti has a palace as big as all of King’s Landing. Then you’ve got the Free Cities that aren’t fans of dragons. I don’t think they’d have any shortage of troops if Dany decides to go after them.


I wanted the Night King to destroy Westeros. The Sequel can be other people we haven't really met yet in the show banning together to fight the Night King who laid waste to Westeros and acquired 3 dragons
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 3:38 pm to
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my point, is that 25% > 0 and working with Dany ensures a larger return


Even with dragons, I don’t see any leverage Dany has over the Iron Bank. They could easily get a much larger army than she could.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36763 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 3:38 pm to
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ENDING! Ending. Was the sept or shireen anywhere near the ending?





Sweet deflection


Shireen ended
The sept ended
Hodor ended

Not happy endings


But let’s assume your deflection was what you actually meant, then how would you know it has a happy ending with 3 eps left?


ETA: just to remind everyone, your argument for these not being a good example was that D&D took this from Martin source material (not true), then when you were proven wrong you changed it to “it’s not the end”
This post was edited on 4/29/19 at 3:43 pm
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