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re: Game of Thrones S7E1 "Dragonstone" Maester thread, no dummies allowed

Posted on 7/18/17 at 4:31 pm to
Posted by TechTiger
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 4:31 pm to
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There's an in here. The Tyrell's are in a pretty terrible situation after the destruction of the sept. Maybe there's an opportunity to name a new warden of the Reach who may be willing to show them some loyalty?


Given that things like this are always happening in the show, my bet would be the Lannisters forming an alliance with another house in the Reach that they would promise lordship to.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 4:32 pm to
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Until proven wrong, I'm going to assume that he's paralyzed and can't feel anything below the waist.


Meera already makes him happy in pants
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 4:34 pm to
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There's an in here. The Tyrell's are in a pretty terrible situation after the destruction of the sept. Maybe there's an opportunity to name a new warden of the Reach who may be willing to show them some loyalty?

It looks like lady Olenna is running Highgarden right now in the show. In the books there is Garlan Tyrell who is the older brother of Loras Tyrell. Garlan was going to fight for Margaery if she had to go to a trial by combat with her faith militant stuff.
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 4:34 pm to
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Do the other Tyrell boys exist in the show?


Olena blames Cersei for destroying her legacy in Loras and Margery....so I would guess their immediate line has ended in the show. Plus they wouldn't introduce a new character, that would seem trivial at this put in the story.
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 4:35 pm to
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Oh, sorry, doctor. I wasn't aware that you have knowledge of the working order of Bran's lower body and privates.

hey I gotta defend my favorite chars honor!!
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 4:36 pm to
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Do the other Tyrell boys exist in the show?



No
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 4:39 pm to
Bran gonna warg into someone else and spread dat seed.
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 4:43 pm to
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Maybe there's an opportunity to name a new warden of the Reach who may be willing to show them some loyalty?
Being names warden doesn't mean a lot when you get down to it. Being a warden doesn't automatically mean you'll have the loyalty of the people of that region.

Jaime was named warden of the East after Jon Arryn died, but they sure as shite weren't going to obediently follow his command.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 4:46 pm to
Funny part is after Arya kills everyone, that girl looks at Arya like she is some alien. Funny because they are probably the same age yet world's apart.
Posted by TechTiger
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 4:50 pm to
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Maybe there's an opportunity to name a new warden of the Reach who may be willing to show them some loyalty?


My money is the Lannisters make a deal with the Tarleys for control of Highgarden....Randall Tarley is already cast for this season......
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 4:51 pm to
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Being names warden doesn't mean a lot when you get down to it. Being a warden doesn't automatically mean you'll have the loyalty of the people of that region.

Jaime was named warden of the East after Jon Arryn died, but they sure as shite weren't going to obediently follow his command.


True, but naming Jaime the Warden of the East isn't quite like naming, say, Randyll Tarly the Warden of the Reach.
This post was edited on 7/18/17 at 4:55 pm
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 4:53 pm to
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Funny part is after Arya kills everyone, that girl looks at Arya like she is some alien. Funny because they are probably the same age yet world's apart.



Well, that and the fact she saw her 100 year old husband pull off his face and transform into a little girl.
This post was edited on 7/18/17 at 4:55 pm
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 4:58 pm to
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My money is the Lannisters make a deal with the Tarleys for control of Highgarden....Randall Tarley is already cast for this season......

The Lannisters aren't going to be able to put anyone in there to quell the Tyrell's and their peoples rage. Cersei blew up their Lord,the heir to Highgarden, and the queen who is the daughter of their lord. The Tyrells are at war with the crown.
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Posted by cascadia
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 5:18 pm to
It all doesn't end with the white walkers though. They ain't getting on ships to go anywhere other that Westeros.
Posted by TechTiger
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 5:20 pm to
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The Lannisters aren't going to be able to put anyone in there to quell the Tyrell's and their peoples rage. Cersei blew up their Lord,the heir to Highgarden, and the queen who is the daughter of their lord. The Tyrells are at war with the crown.


Well everyone already is upset or in open rebellion to the crown anyway. The Lannisters still have the largest army in Westeros. So there has to be something else happen to create tension and conflict. You can't just have Dany roll through westeros unnoposed....that wouldn't leave a lot left for storytelling. Unless Euron is the only fallback for Cersei, then there will be another obstacle for Dany and her allies to deal with.

I think Cersei still has some cards left to pull.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 5:26 pm to
no male tyrells left in the show that we've seen so the line is ended unless olenna immaculately conceives. they showed what a lot of people say is highgarden in the trailers so it appears someone's going there to do something

no male martells left either

tullys, lannisters, arryns, starks, Baratheons all done for the most part
which is why i said before, these houses don't matter anymore

alt shift X has a good video on the others from season 5
it points out two things I found that interesting

1) what little we know about the others seems to clearly imply there's no way they can be defeated in battle no matter about dragon glass or fancy swords

2) it's far more likely that the others built the wall (being able to command ice and all) than a bunch of scraggly humans and leaf people

I think I agree with both of those points which sets up a bunch of questions which could be very cool to see play out in another way other than a good/evil battle
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 5:27 pm to
Also nice to see Arya improve her wardrobe. Looks a little more royal now. Poor thing had to wear rags for too long.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 5:27 pm to
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I think Cersei still has some cards left to pull.



Obviously she does.

Randyll Tarley will be fighting and leading a combined Lannister/Tarley army. His fat son Sam and a bunch of wildlings will be on the oposing side. Perhaps Sam kills him with the ancestral Valerian sword.

#samtheslayer
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 5:28 pm to
Does someone have the theories thread book marked somewhere? I can't find it
Posted by UFLedu
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 5:29 pm to
Yeah, but the Lannister army is gassed after the war of the 5 kings, not to mention surrounded as the show discussed. I think the Tarly's help the Lannisters defeat Highgarden then the Greyjoys take out a big chunk of ships while Dany splits her army to take Casterly Rock. Then eventually moves east, liberates the Riverlands, then moves North due to the WW rather than finishing off Cersei by heading south.

But who knows, I'm the f'n new guy.
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