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re: Game of Thrones S7E1 "Dragonstone" Maester thread, no dummies allowed

Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:01 am to
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:01 am to
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the Night's King HAS lived for thousands of years


Lived is a relative term.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:46 am to
I just hope we learn how NK came to be, who was he before being turned into the NK. Or based off the downvotes, people already know.
This post was edited on 7/18/17 at 9:01 am
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:02 am to
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:08 am to
Yeah I remember that part in Bran's greensight vision, but I would like to know who he was and why he was chosen. I would also like to know if the Children of the Forrest have a means to destroy him outright.

Also, I can't remember if it was discussed last year, but did they stab the NK in the chest with dragonglass to create him?
This post was edited on 7/18/17 at 9:12 am
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:12 am to
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We have our first "reader" controversy in the hodor thread. So much for not needing two threads


Reaction was very tame, even reasonable at first, but now the Hodor Militant have started to show up.
Posted by 50_Tiger
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:14 am to
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Also, I can't remember if it was discussed last year, but did they stab the NK in the chest with dragonglass to create him?


Yes that's exactly what they did.

So it makes sense that dragon glass kills them.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:14 am to
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did they stab the NK in the chest with dragonglass to create him?


Yes, then the Children did the same thing with Benjen Stark.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:19 am to
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We have our first "reader" controversy in the hodor thread.

So much for not needing two threads


That's exactly why I said we'd have to have two. People literally can't handle someone who knows anything beyond what's shown on the show. They've even complained about HBO content on the website before being shared.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:21 am to
I visit their thread from time to time for the lols, not that it takes long to read that little thread.
Posted by beerJeep
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:23 am to
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Yes, then the Children did the same thing with Benjen Stark.


*tinfoil hat on*

Benjen is a pawn of the night king and only "saved" bran to get him to the wall ASAP, so he can pass through it, allowing the night king and friends to get through.
This post was edited on 7/18/17 at 9:26 am
Posted by ZappBrannigan
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:26 am to
Good ole Fireball, to one of the greatest knights ever lads!
Posted by Big_Slim
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:29 am to
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i've heard this exact theory before but i don't like it

i really hate the whole time travel shite they started last season


Not time travel baw, it's more like past and future are all one tangent, present moment. Static time theory. I love it it's one of my favorite parts of the book; kind of reminded me of Dr. Manhattan's monologue in the Watchmen
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:42 am to
Time is a flat circle.

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Posted by 50_Tiger
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:44 am to
I know folks get angry over the crackpot theory of Bran starting this whole mess with the Mad King, but besides completing Hodor's story arc there has to be another reason why they would choose that route.

Or maybe it's too convenient to say Bran fricked up the Mad King due to mind fricking him with visions of the future.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:44 am to
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Think Benjen can communicate with the NK?
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:46 am to
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Benjen is a pawn of the night king and only "saved" bran to get him to the wall ASAP, so he can pass through it, allowing the night king and friends to get through.
This would be one of the biggest derps in the show's history. If that mark works with the wall like it did the TER's cave, Bran should know that.

I know a lot of people expect this to happen, but it's just too convenient and stupid for it to be totally overlooked by Bran and Meera.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:53 am to
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I know folks get angry over the crackpot theory of Bran starting this whole mess with the Mad King, but besides completing Hodor's story arc there has to be another reason why they would choose that route.

Or maybe it's too convenient to say Bran fricked up the Mad King due to mind fricking him with visions of the future.




Yes it is too convenient and ruins his character. He needs some responsibility for his own madness. Which is why I like my own Crackpot theory more that he, Tywin, and Pycelle burnt down Summerhall to get rid of a good king, a decent heir, and the Lord Commander of the Kingsguard. The regret of this and fear that Tywin would do this to him eventually (which he pretty much did at Duskendale and would have if it weren't for Barristan) is what drove him past the breaking point.
Posted by Saskwatch
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:54 am to
Cold hands couldn't pass under the wall in the book. I assume he touched Sam or Bran at some point leading them around North of the wall and rescuing them.

I think the NK thing was a convenient way to speed up Bran's departure from the 3 eyed raven and the cave under the tree. Kinda hard to keep showing scenes of Bran hanging on to a root all white eyed time and time again.
Posted by 50_Tiger
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:55 am to
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Yes it is too convenient and ruins his character. He needs some responsibility for his own madness. Which is why I like my own Crackpot theory more that he, Tywin, and Pycelle burnt down Summerhall to get rid of a good king, a decent heir, and the Lord Commander of the Kingsguard. The regret of this and fear that Tywin would do this to him eventually (which he pretty much did at Duskendale and would have if it weren't for Barristan) is what drove him past the breaking point.


I can get behind this.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 10:00 am to
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Which is why I like my own Crackpot theory more that he, Tywin, and Pycelle burnt down Summerhall to get rid of a good king, a decent heir, and the Lord Commander of the Kingsguard. The regret of this and fear that Tywin would do this to him eventually (which he pretty much did at Duskendale and would have if it weren't for Barristan) is what drove him past the breaking point.



I don't think this makes it better. Worse, actually.
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