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re: Game of Thrones S7E1 "Dragonstone" Maester thread, no dummies allowed

Posted on 7/17/17 at 9:54 am to
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 9:54 am to
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Very true. I listen to his music and I didn't even know that was him until I read it on here.
I looked up his songs, and I've definitely heard them, but when I saw him in the episode, I just thought he was yet another British ginger in GoT.
Posted by Gugich22
Who Dat Nation
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 9:55 am to
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"Loving can hurt"




Should have played when The Mountain had his way with the shame lady...
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 9:55 am to
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it's that she did it in front of all of the leaders in the north. You wanna question the king, you do it in private with him.
Like I said, there would be no other opportunity for her if this is the first time she's hearing of his plan for the castles. It's basically like a large council anyway. She wasn't the only one who disagreed with one of his points. Again, I don't agree with her here, but I'm fine with what she did and how she did it. Yes, he's the "king" but if he's going to survive and be a better king than all the others he has to be able to defend every move he makes and be held accountable by his councilors and lords: the people in that room.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 9:57 am to
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Yeah, it burnt off all of her clothes


They cannot have enough of these type scenes.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:00 am to
A good advisor advises in private, or voices their opinion. like she did, then becomes silent after he gives his reasoning.

She called him a great leader after the fact, and only before saying "but."

DO you think Tyrion would ever directly undermine Dani publicly? You can say it's a "Large Council" meeting, but it has the heads of all his bannermen; plus he just got this job, It's not like they're his inner circle.

It was a mistake for Sansa to do that, and I'm pretty sure she knows better. The whole point of it was a plot device to create additional separation between Jon and Dani. It also gives LittleFinger a larger role
Posted by crispyUGA
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:01 am to
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Yeah, Jon isn't focussed on Cersei, but that's because they can't afford to fight one another. Why? Because nothing else matters but the walkers.


That's true, but you need to focus on The Others while keeping one eye on Cersei. I agree with what Sansa said, Cersei doesn't have to send an army north to kill Jon. She's a conniving bitch.

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Send out some fricking Ravens already. Tell everyone what's going on



The Northern houses are all in Winterfell. They're the only ones who would even be willing to believe that White Walkers even exist. I doubt anyone else would pay much attention.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:03 am to
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Nothing Else matters but the walkers.


Uh oh, here comes the Metallica cameo.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:04 am to
I saw the rock as a dothraki in the trailer for the next episode
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:04 am to
Perhaps, but you'd think they'd at least try. I think a raven from Jon to Tyrion would have some effect
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109197 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:05 am to
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there is no doubt that the wall is coming down and this probably why/how


Thanks Bran!
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:07 am to
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I don't think enough people even know who he is for it to be that glaring of a cameo, and he sure as shite isn't on par with the Kardashians, as drama boy asserts.

I just don't see why people give this much of a shite. I'm not trying to be "too cool for...." but I honestly had no idea who he was until after the episode. I think it's more likely that a lot of people don't like his band and are using this as an excuse to attack him


you're melting really hard. people think it's funny.


Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:07 am to
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Sansa still is whipped by Cersai. She is experienced and smart but still doesn't know how to lead. That is basically what we saw.


She needs to stick to making clothes with wolf embroidery, and maybe make some sammiches too.
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:09 am to
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Sansa knows that Ceresi would be the kind to try to turn their own people against them if she has to. Or send someone like Euron.


Cersei may be queen. But i don't get where all this respect or fear of cersei is coming from. By nature, someone like cersei implodes. She's not that smart and her military resources are running low. Sure, she might get aid from Euron but he's just waiting to out scheme her and take over.

She has enemies on all sides...dragons, white walkers, dothraki, unsullied, Tyrion' brain, Dany's wrath...and that's not even counting the iron bank of bravos. She is queen but we all know her time is running out.

There are people I'd be scared shitless to have as an enemy. LF, Varys, olena Tyrell, Tywin, iron bank, jagen. Cersei's power are derived from her family name, Beaty/sexuality, and wealth. All of these are diminishing.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87980 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:10 am to
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A good advisor advises in private
Maybe she didn't have that opportunity.
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voices their opinion. like she did, then becomes silent after he gives his reasoning
Sometimes that isn't enough. And that's okay.
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DO you think Tyrion would ever directly undermine Dani publicly?
Dany hasn't ever been a good leader tbh.
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It was a mistake for Sansa to do that, and I'm pretty sure she knows better.
She thinks it's a mistake to shut up. What she did didn't hurt him because he had a good defense. That's all that matters.
This post was edited on 7/17/17 at 10:12 am
Posted by TideWarrior
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:10 am to
I still think it is heading into a direction that all who will be left to rule are women. Dorne and Iron Islands will have women ruling them in the end it seems. Sansa, the Reed girl, and the girl from Bear Island(who seems to have a major role moving forward) all someone how ruling the northern lands. Daenerys ruling over all.Just seems like all the major players(politically) are women now except for Jon Snow who really does not seem to want to be a leader.

Again though I could see Cersei somehow prevailing and defeating them all and becoming the Queen she so desires.
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:12 am to
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A good advisor advises in private, or voices their opinion. like she did, then becomes silent after he gives his reasoning.

She called him a great leader after the fact, and only before saying "but."

DO you think Tyrion would ever directly undermine Dani publicly? You can say it's a "Large Council" meeting, but it has the heads of all his bannermen; plus he just got this job, It's not like they're his inner circle.

It was a mistake for Sansa to do that, and I'm pretty sure she knows better
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She is still new to having any real power. The only women she saw operate was Cersei, who would have done the exact same thing. She and Jon still need to figure out their working relationship.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:12 am to
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Cersei may be queen. But i don't get where all this respect or fear of cersei is coming from


Certainly it has nothing to do with the fact that she has somehow managed to kill just about everyone who stands in her way
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109197 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:15 am to
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She's not his sister actually, she's his cousin


It's perfect that a Bama fan posted this.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87980 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:15 am to
I like how Euron has enough time to build 1000 ships but her hair still looks like shite.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:16 am to
Yara didn't steal all the ships, just the best ones.
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