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re: Game of Thrones S6E7 "The Broken Man" (book reader thread - NO LEAKS)

Posted on 6/6/16 at 9:16 am to
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 9:16 am to
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Who is that? Slynt? Not sure if serious, but there's no way LF even trusts Slynt, much less considered him his right hand man. He used him. That's all. That's all a man like Slynt was good for.


I don't really think LF has ever had a right hand man, but Slynt was as close as LF had. He certainly knows about LF being behind Ned's death, which is the concerning part.
Posted by CorporateTiger
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 9:18 am to
Which means Jon did LF a favor. LF does not give a shite about Slynt.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 9:20 am to
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Which means Jon did LF a favor. LF does not give a shite about Slynt.


True that died with him, but Slynt was an arrogant arse who bragged non-stop. It's honestly a stretch for LF that Slynt didn't brag about how they killed his father, so I think LF may assume Jon knows about this and may be an additional reason Sansa no longer trusts him.
This post was edited on 6/6/16 at 9:25 am
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 9:20 am to
so I'm curious how they are going to get The Hound to be the FM's champion. He obviously didn't give a shite about the faith.

Will he do it just to kill fight The Mountain? Does he know that The Mountain is already "dead"?
Posted by JimMorrison
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 9:21 am to
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2. The teleportation thing really, really bothers me. Jon and Sansa are defying the laws of physics.


you are the type that would also bitch about their story not progressing quickly enough if they put those scenes across multiple episodes. Plus, the scenes are not specified to be happening in the same day or even at the same time in relation to the other storylines...but it's always someone's job to complain about "defying the laws of physics" in a fantasy show. Congrats man; you've earned it!


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I think the Arya deal is a setup. No way a trained assassin is just strolling around a major city. No way she would have casually let a stranger approach her in the street knowing she was targeted for assassination.


I agree with this. I cannot accept the fact that she would be so stupid to walk around oblivious. I may need to rewatch the scene, but I don't even think she had Needle on her. Makes no sense
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 9:21 am to
If LF was worried Slynt would talk he'd have had him killed before reaching the wall
Posted by CorporateTiger
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 9:23 am to
Next episode he is going to go frick some shite up. In memory of Ian McShane who showed him that there is redemption, he will go the faith and ask to serve. I think it is pretty obvious how it plays out from there.
Posted by Linkovich
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 9:24 am to


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Except Robb is gone and he was just one Stark.


Who they pledged fealty too until he broke his oath for a foreign whore, as Glover put it. The Freys or Boltons have no cause for the Red Wedding if Robb keeps his word. Now a female stark is beckoning for your house. Same person who was married to a shitty king and midget who the Glovers were helping the Starks fight in open war. More recently she was married to a Bolton, who the Glovers now pay homage, in which she broke her wedding vows and ran away from. Glover doesn't see Jon as a stark;only a Bastard fighting with Wildlings.


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If I'm Stark, after Winterfell is regained and control of the North is established there will be heads rolling across the Northern Houses for breaking vows.


Of course, but Glover knew the Stark numbers and has no belief they will take Winterfell. In his mind why would he hitch himself to an onslaught? And secondly, I'd be more worried about being flayed by the Boltons if I was Glover.
This post was edited on 6/6/16 at 9:30 am
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 9:25 am to
I guess it will be that simple

I'm really curious with the bringing back the brotherhood if we might actually see LSH, which I had pretty much written off in the show

but this kinda opens it up for her
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 9:25 am to
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He obviously didn't give a shite about the faith.



They made it clear that the hound resonated with the speech that it's not too late to start doing the right thing. Somehow the hound finds himself back in KL and volunteers to be their champion
Posted by Putty
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 9:26 am to
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If LF was worried Slynt would talk he'd have had him killed before reaching the wall


FWIW, I think Tyrion sent him to the wall while LF was away and not sure when he would have learned of it. LF probably didn't kill Slynt prior to that, bc he was a valuable piece on the board, which is exactly why Tyrion sent him to the wall. To remove him from the LF/Cersei arsenal.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 9:29 am to
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If LF was worried Slynt would talk he'd have had him killed before reaching the wall



Well, I don't think LF thought he was going to say shite so long as he stayed in King's Landing and well away from the Starks, but I'm not sure if he could have gotten to him in time to murder him once he was sent to the Wall. Regardless, I do think LF should have had Ser Mandon snuff him out in his sleep before he was awarded Harrenhall.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 9:33 am to
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FWIW, I think Tyrion sent him to the wall while LF was away and not sure when he would have learned of it. LF probably didn't kill Slynt prior to that, bc he was a valuable piece on the board, which is exactly why Tyrion sent him to the wall. To remove him from the LF/Cersei arsenal.


Well, he was already on his way out the door being awarded Harrenhall. Thinking it through, LF should have had him assassinated before he got to step foot in it. It's implied Tywin wanted Tyrion to do this as well.
Posted by Snatchy
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 9:45 am to
Why would the hound go back to KL? He is considered a deserter by the crown. Did I miss something?
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 9:47 am to
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here's an incline. That's a trick your mind is playing


I know it's an incline but look at their feet. They are almost equal. Incline or not the one on the left looks taller.


No, look again

Arya-face on the right, wearing the clothes she gets stabbed in, is around the center of that block of walkway (use the cross-blocks as a reference). Girl on the left (wearing Arya's clothing, and Arya's pigtails), is at the very top of that block, with her foot on the crossblock. If you count the stones in the wall to the right, they are 3-4 stones apart.

Camera is off center, everything drops to the right a little.

Look at posture- girl on left is walking downhill, shoulders back (better balance), standing taller.
Girl on right is slumping forward as she walks uphill, and is looking down.

Look at their overall size in comparison- girl on right, her shoulders measure about what the girl on left's waist is, and you know that can't be the case. It's just perspective.

The more I consider it, the more I am convinced this was staged by Arya. She might have more than 1 set of clothes, but there's no way the directors just randomly dressed another actress in Arya's clothing (what she wore to the play), with Arya's hairstyle, and put her in the scene just before Arya gets shanked.
Arya knew what she was up against when she decided not to kill the target. She knew the blonde waif despised her and would come for her if she had the chance.
Like Margaery, we see her brooding in concern over what's to come the prior episode, only to act completely different the next episode.

How'd she pull it off? Dunno, but she's assumed different faces before. Maybe she can make someone else do it too.

Who was it? Well, the younger actress wanted to kill off the lead in the play, so she could get top billing. Maybe Arya told her that she could become anyone, and not just need a wig. Pretty enticing lure... that ability would surely elevate her to the lead actress.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 9:48 am to
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Why would the hound go back to KL? He is considered a deserter by the crown. Did I miss something?


Because he knows the faith is there and he's going to do the right thing?
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 9:49 am to
McShane has put the Hound on a collision course with the Mountain. He's going to be the Sparrows champion.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 9:49 am to
Really wanting to know what is on Sansa's letter. If it is indeed to to Robyn and not LF I'm going to finally be ok with the way the show is portraying her.
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 9:55 am to
If the letter is to Blackfish that would be gangster
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 9:56 am to
Tormund is in Fast 8

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