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re: Game of Thrones S6E7 "The Broken Man" (book reader thread - NO LEAKS)
Posted on 6/6/16 at 8:55 am to ladytiger118
Posted on 6/6/16 at 8:55 am to ladytiger118
But...as far as Jon and Davos, they're planning to stay North to fight the dead right?
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 8:56 am to ohiovol
Speaking of Lannisters, what do y'all think will happen to Jaime? I really hope he doesn't go back to Kings Landing. So sick of him kissing Cersei's arse.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 8:57 am to CorporateTiger
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I assume Cocomo nuked it. It was a useful post for them but whatever.
I figured as much after reading his posts a few down from yours.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 8:57 am to Linkovich
I can definitely understand why the northern lords feel the way they do. Most probably don't know Ramsay's level of sadism the way we do, and the wildlings have pillaged their lands for years.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 8:58 am to ladytiger118
I'm hoping Jaime matches North and joins with Jon. Jaime's only real regret in life is failing to protect Rhaegar's children from his father, so it would be a nice chance for redemption.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 8:58 am to Scoob
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wonder if the whole season is a test of both Arya and the Waif, to see who is more worthy to be a servant of the Faceless God. And the waif is a jealous, sadistic killer, not an impartial dispenser of justice. That doesn't seem to be the way Jaquen operates.
That's pretty damned deep. And could well be right.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 8:59 am to OMLandshark
I'm hoping Brienne will talk some sense into Jamie
Posted on 6/6/16 at 8:59 am to Linkovich
Yeah. There really wasn't anything in the post that was a spoiler. Just an explanation of who from each house was left alive and how each house inherits generally.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 8:59 am to ladytiger118
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So sick of him kissing Cersei's arse.
I hate that change from the books. In the preview he says he loves her more than anything and will do whatever to get back to her. In the books he burns her letter and basically wipes his hands of her.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 8:59 am to ladytiger118
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Speaking of Lannisters, what do y'all think will happen to Jaime?
I really hope he can grow a pair of balls back since his hand isn't the only thing that's been cut off in the show version of him. Maybe Brienne brings him back closer to the book version.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 8:59 am to Byron Bojangles III
Someone needs to come by and tell him about Lancel, the Kettlebacks, and maybe even Moonboy.
Maybe the Hound will stop by on his rampage through the Riverlands.
Maybe the Hound will stop by on his rampage through the Riverlands.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 9:01 am to OMLandshark
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1) He let thousands of Wildlings through the Wall, which as far as 95% of the realm is concerned is the Night's Watch's only real job.
That's why they need to carry around a wight-cicle in a cage and thaw him out for the different houses for little demonstrations.
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2) He broke his vows to serve in the Night's Watch for life (I don't think most of the realm is going to buy he actually died).
He could pull a Jesus with Thomas thing and let them put their fingers into the stab wounds in his side. Last we saw that shite didn't seem to be healing up much.
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3) He seemingly served Stannis to serve his own goals.
How did he serve Stannis? And how was it to serve his own goals.
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4) He has at least 3 people in front of him in line to inherit the title of Lord of Winterfell.
I don't think there is any way shape or form that Jon is ever going to be Lord of Winterfell. And I don't think he even really wants to be. Even before the whole R+L = J reveal. They have the letter from Ramsey saying Rickon is a prisoner at Winterfell. Thus there are Stark heirs extant and needing help. If that does not motivate the northern houses then the whole "North Remembers" stuff and how they all remember thousands of years of Stark rule fondly really is absent from the books.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 9:02 am to Linkovich
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Glover's argument was pretty solid about why he wouldn't just turn from the Bolton's. They felt betrayed by Robb and the Bolton's helped him get his castle back. And your only fighting force is a pack of wildlings the North hates.
Except Robb is gone and he was just one Stark. The rest of the Starks were murdered by the Bolton's and Guest's Rights were violated. The way to the Bolton's seized power was sneaky and sleezy. Add in that Rickon, the Stark heir, is being held captive in Winterfell and Glover is duty bound to serve Rickon.
I see Glover's argument but can counter argue that the Bolton's were oathbreaking murderers for what they did at the Red Wedding. If Jon and the Starks are vouching for the Wildlings then that should be good enough for every House they talk with. If I'm Stark, after Winterfell is regained and control of the North is established there will be heads rolling across the Northern Houses for breaking vows.
This post was edited on 6/6/16 at 9:08 am
Posted on 6/6/16 at 9:03 am to Gugich22
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I'm really not concerned about Sansa turning on Jon. I think she is playing her ace in the hole with LF and I think she absolutely knows him well enough to watch out for her and Jon's well being with him around. She is smart enough now to manipulate him as he loves her like he loved Cat.
Who else loves Sansa so? Sweetrobin does. I'm still not sure Sansa was writing to LF, but assuming she was, I would think she is setting him up to steal the knights of the vale from him.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 9:04 am to OMLandshark
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I'm hoping Jaime matches North and joins with Jon. Jaime's only real regret in life is failing to protect Rhaegar's children from his father, so it would be a nice chance for redemption.
This seems to be what book Jaime would do, but the show version of him seems to be so far off this path. If the show tries to align him more with the book version, the approach they use to turn him 180 is one of the more intriguing arcs for me.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 9:04 am to Methuselah
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How did he serve Stannis? And how was it to serve his own goals.
Well, he was elected Lord Commander when he arrived, used his ships to get his Wildlings army, and he currently has Stannis' advisors serving him. I don't think he served Stannis, I'm just saying that's how much of the world would perceive it.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 9:05 am to Linkovich
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This seems to be what book Jaime would do, but the show version of him seems to be so far off this path. If the show tries to align him more with the book version, the approach they use to turn him 180 is one of the more intriguing arcs for me.
I could see Brienne talking sense into him
Posted on 6/6/16 at 9:12 am to Linkovich
I think Jaime only marches north once Tommen is dead. As long as his son is on the throne, he will try to protect the crown.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 9:12 am to OMLandshark
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On top of that, Jon executes LF's right hand man who knows many of his dirty secrets
Who is that? Slynt? Not sure if serious, but there's no way LF even trusts Slynt, much less considered him his right hand man. He used him. That's all. That's all a man like Slynt was good for.
Maybe I'm having a Hodor moment and forgetting someone else, though.
FWIW, I pretty much agree with the rest of what you are saying in your posts. I've thought for a while that the "Snow is a traitorous deserter" narrative will get more play among the populace than "wait guys, he for real rose from the dead, and as for that wildling stuff he had good intentions, and he only killed the Halfhand bc he was 'ordered' to, and...you just need to know him to understand."
This post was edited on 6/6/16 at 9:16 am
Posted on 6/6/16 at 9:16 am to TigerFanatic99
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The High Sparrow is not going to join forces with The Blackfish to take Winterfell
Have an up-vote my friend.
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