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re: Game of Thrones S6:E4 "Book of The Stranger" Bookreader Thread

Posted on 5/16/16 at 8:53 am to
Posted by putt23
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 8:53 am to
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Someone said Jon Snow would be heir to the Iron Throne if his true parentage is unveiled, but even then he would still be a bastard.


Yep, unless R and L secretly got married. If not he's The Great Bastard
Posted by thatguy1892
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 8:54 am to
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but even then he would still be a bastard.


Not if Lyanna and Rhaegar got married. Wouldn't be the first time a Targaryean had two wives.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 8:55 am to
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Could what they showed simply be clips from future episodes not necessarily just next week?
It was next week's preview.
Posted by putt23
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 8:56 am to
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Jon and Sansa and 2,000 Wildlings mostly on foot march to Winterfell


Before Mance attacked The Wall, didn't they have like 100,000? I know they weren't all fighters, but it seems like they should have more than 2000 soldiers left
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 8:57 am to
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Someone said Jon Snow would be heir to the Iron Throne if his true parentage is unveiled, but even then he would still be a bastard.

Not if they were married. Although with that said, I'm not sure how polygamy is viewed from a legalistic standpoint in Westeros. They let the Targs intermarry, so why should multiple wives be any different?
Posted by Ham Solo
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 9:03 am to
Even if they weren't married bastards still have a claim. Their claim is just always pushed to the back of the line when there is a true heir. It also seems that if the parent is still living it requires some sort of approval. If bastards had no claim whatsoever Ned wouldn't have cared one bit about Gendry.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 9:04 am to
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Before Mance attacked The Wall, didn't they have like 100,000? I know they weren't all fighters, but it seems like they should have more than 2000 soldiers left


Only 2k left with them from Hardhomme
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 9:05 am to
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Even if they weren't married bastards still have a claim.
Yep. Or else why would it be so important to kill all of Robert's bastards?
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 9:08 am to
And probably scattered when Mance died.
Posted by CorporateTiger
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 9:13 am to
Gendry proved the incest angle. Ned didn't really care about his throne (Ned wanted to put Stannis on the throne). Gendry's looks showed that Joffrey and co weren't Robert's children. "The seed is strong" and all.
Posted by CorporateTiger
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 9:14 am to
I 100% believe that Rhaegar and Lyanna got married. The Targaryens have a polygamy history.
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 9:17 am to
Has anyone mentioned that with Brienne at the wall, Ice (or part of it) is now back in the presence of multiple members of the Stark family? Any chance we see one of the Starks taking it at any point (especially if Brienne dies)?
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 9:18 am to
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Before Mance attacked The Wall, didn't they have like 100,000? I know they weren't all fighters, but it seems like they should have more than 2000 soldiers left


And one giant. It will be like one of those "how many second graders can you take on?" threads
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 9:18 am to
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Only 2k left with them from Hardhomme


I think the 100k number was always a bit of stretch. It include women, old folk and children. Also how do you count that.
Posted by CorporateTiger
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 9:18 am to
If Brienne dies, maybe? Jon has Longclaw and Sansa has no use for a sword except to give it to a loyal knight.... And she has exactly one loyal knight.... Who already has the sword.
This post was edited on 5/16/16 at 9:20 am
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 9:23 am to
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I 100% believe that Rhaegar and Lyanna got married. The Targaryens have a polygamy history.


As do I. I don't buy any of the he kidnapped and raped her bit either.
Posted by CorporateTiger
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 9:26 am to
Also for the Howland Reed is the High Sparrow believers on here, did his story from this episode change your belief in the theory at all?
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 9:27 am to
They'll just call him a liar.

I've never believed it. But it was a good theory.
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 9:28 am to
Are non-book readers who pay attention and have a clue welcome here? I had to pull the rip cord on the Hodor thread.
Posted by bamafan1001
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 9:29 am to
So is the great victory the Red Woman saw in the flames, Jon's victory over Ramsay?
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